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PRC Targeting of Commercial Telecommunications Infrastructure

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Re: PRC Targeting of Commercial Telecommunications Infrastructure

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post #3

> and the copying of certain information that was subject to U.S. law enforcement requests pursuant to court orders Is this legal speak for saying, "They're using our backdoors without our permission."?

I think so? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42043010

Does this mean that they were able to (ab)use LI infra?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_interception

Re: PRC Targeting of Commercial Telecommunications Infrastructure

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post #8

Whenever I see these news & FBI releases about Chinese state-sponsored hackers breaching systems in America, I wonder whether the same thing happens over there: American malware and hacker groups attacking & laying landmines in China's internet infrastructure, although the Chinese may not publicize these exploits because their system opts to maintain an air of invincibility.

China has the Great Firewall segregating most international access from the country's network. Additionally, China (moreso than most) has a motivation to onshore as much of their software and hardware manufacturing to bolster their own industry. It's possible that isolated attacks could pop off now and again, but hacking to-and-from China is strictly state controlled.

It certainly does happen. See for example under “Targets”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailored_Access_Operations

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post #5

I will be interested to see if the Trump administration will target their response at any specific companies or entities related to telecommunications (beyond existing measures) or just focus on existing tariffs and export controls. I also wonder if information about similar attacks from US allies will be detailed in the coming days, or if the exploits were just limited to our specific back doors (as has been reporte…

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Re: PRC Targeting of Commercial Telecommunications Infrastructure

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> and the copying of certain information that was subject to U.S. law enforcement requests pursuant to court orders Is this legal speak for saying, "They're using our backdoors without our permission."?

Yes, they leveraging CALEA mandated infrastructure.

https://www.techdirt.com/2024/10/16/wyden-calea-hack-proves-...

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/wyden_letter_to_f...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_...

Re: PRC Targeting of Commercial Telecommunications Infrastructure

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> and the copying of certain information that was subject to U.S. law enforcement requests pursuant to court orders Is this legal speak for saying, "They're using our backdoors without our permission."?

Damn, if only some one, some where, at some point, had mentioned that there's no such thing as a secure backdoor to encryption. Oh well, maybe such events are impossible to predict.

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> and the copying of certain information that was subject to U.S. law enforcement requests pursuant to court orders Is this legal speak for saying, "They're using our backdoors without our permission."?

Yes, they leveraging CALEA mandated infrastructure. https://www.techdirt.com/2024/10/16/wyden-calea-hack-proves-... https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/wyden_letter_to_f... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_...

Can you imagine if the proponents of the Clipper Chip had actually won the argument? Yeesh. This is inexcusable.

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post #9

> and the copying of certain information that was subject to U.S. law enforcement requests pursuant to court orders Is this legal speak for saying, "They're using our backdoors without our permission."?

I like the tacit implication that all 335 million-odd Americans might be subject to requests pursuant to court orders, but none of us can ever really know for sure since those records might be sealed, expunged, vacated or classified. It's like we're on the $500,000 question and my Phone-a-Friend still has Snowden on the line.

> I like the tacit implication that all 335 million-odd Americans [...]

I wouldn't worry too much.

Us unAmericans in the rest of the world don't have any constitutional guarantees to save us from the US spooks (nor from each other), and you don't have any constitutional guarantees to save you from the rest of the world, either.

So the flimsy guarantees that would in theory save you from your own spooks are really just a drop in the bucket.

Re: PRC Targeting of Commercial Telecommunications Infrastructure

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post #8

Whenever I see these news & FBI releases about Chinese state-sponsored hackers breaching systems in America, I wonder whether the same thing happens over there: American malware and hacker groups attacking & laying landmines in China's internet infrastructure, although the Chinese may not publicize these exploits because their system opts to maintain an air of invincibility.

China has the Great Firewall segregating most international access from the country's network. Additionally, China (moreso than most) has a motivation to onshore as much of their software and hardware manufacturing to bolster their own industry. It's possible that isolated attacks could pop off now and again, but hacking to-and-from China is strictly state controlled.

You say it like it's hard to get around the Great Firewall in either direction.
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