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Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by DrBazza »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #61
seydor wrote: post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

The Guardian is a newspaper with a long-proclaimed left-wing bias. Musk has claimed that X is politically neutral.

Well, it is the Guardian leaving rather than being banned. If they think the site is unbalanced, then they’ve just made it worse.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by pupppet »

seydor wrote: post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

Not quite the same.

There’s a bit of difference between encouraging votes for the good of the people and encouraging votes to help you personally.

But if I’m mistaken and Harris promised the Guardian a govt position they could use to pass laws to help them personally, do tell.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by llamaimperative »

llm_trw wrote: post #136
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's difficult to tell because the tweet doesn't link to the original, screenshotting it instead. But the explanation is probably that these are two different meanings of the term "two-tier policing".

It's exactly the same meaning but with the sign reversed. Turns out identity politics is a terrible idea. Now the Guardian et al are finding out exactly why when the people they disagree with are doing it too.

But uh... isn't it possible that one exists and the other does not?

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

llm_trw wrote: post #136
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's difficult to tell because the tweet doesn't link to the original, screenshotting it instead. But the explanation is probably that these are two different meanings of the term "two-tier policing".

It's exactly the same meaning but with the sign reversed. Turns out identity politics is a terrible idea. Now the Guardian et al are finding out exactly why when the people they disagree with are doing it too.

Exactly: two completely opposing points! I agree that identity politics is a terrible idea.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by fwip »

nozzlegear wrote: post #126
dustedcodes wrote: post #103

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> Someone on X summarised it pretty accurately That screed sounds less like it was aiming for accuracy and more like it was aiming to be inflammatory. But what do I know, I haven't had a Twitter account since 2014.

Likely that passes for analysis on Twitter, these days.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by pharrington »

n0id34 wrote: post #129
jmull wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it "childish antics" for the Guardian to have their own political viewpoint? Musk can have a preferred candidate and political stance. And he can run Twitter accordingly. The Guardian can have a preferred candidate and political stance. And they can choose the platforms they use accordingly. It all seems perfectly reasonable to me.

It's ridiculous for any media to have a political bias, defeats the entire purpose of the media if it's already skewed when it's consumed.

There's no such thing as unbiased media. The inescapabilty of bias isn't a problem - the problems are undue bias, lying about one's bias, and letting your bias erode journalistic integrity.

(edited to add last part about journalistic integrity)

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by booleandilemma »

jmull wrote: post #60
seydor wrote: post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

Is it "childish antics" for the Guardian to have their own political viewpoint? Musk can have a preferred candidate and political stance. And he can run Twitter accordingly. The Guardian can have a preferred candidate and political stance. And they can choose the platforms they use accordingly. It all seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I think the parent is saying that the guardian is being hypocritical.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

anunes wrote: post #62
aeternum wrote: post #16

Real reason: The Guardian can't handle when readers community note them using.. The Guardian. https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1821189070401249385/p...

Are community notes impartial?

In theory, it is designed to be resistant to being partial to any one side. And is pretty decent at it. However, being a social system it can be gamed, and sometimes is gamed.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by jasonfarnon »

EGreg wrote: post #123
seydor wrote: post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

Looking past the childish antics, don’t you think it’s kind of rich that; 1) The party which has been kvetching the most about being deplatformed and canceled by mainstream media and colleges etc. is now in power and in the name of promoting free speech promises to go after institutions in academia etc. that are full of their political opponents (who lean left) for “claming down on free speech and calling it disinfor…

As long as Zuck controls Facebook (sorry, “Meta”), Elon controls Twitter (sorry, “X”),

off topic, but one thing I always wonder is why the press goes along with company re-branding? If everyone knows it as Twitter or Meta, wouldn't the easiest thing be to just keep referring to it that way in your articles etc and not help the company in its massive undertaking of changing everyone's name for the product?

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