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> If anyone has ever gone from a Jetbrains IDE back to VSCode, you likely know that this transition feels pretty bad. Does anyone know what OOP is talking about here? VSCode is working just fine for me and I do not have a reddit account to ask it him myself
IIRC jetbrains was a russian company, backed by people close to putin. Then they "migrated" away from russia (jetbrains users are 90% westerners) to avoid losing their users, and even made some blog post about it, but from what i have heard the people behind the curtains whose names are in no legal papers are in fact still the same people with close ties to putin and his inner circle.
Let's suppose that's true, so what? Is Putin Satan now? I don't see anyone rushing to boycott US companies over its state policy... Intellij is a great product, I would still use it even if it were Israeli.
IIRC jetbrains was a russian company, backed by people close to putin. Then they "migrated" away from russia (jetbrains users are 90% westerners) to avoid losing their users, and even made some blog post about it, but from what i have heard the people behind the curtains whose names are in no legal papers are in fact still the same people with close ties to putin and his inner circle.
Putin has nothing to do with it, pretty sure he doesn’t even know who they are. JetBrains founders are Russians, but they registered the company in Prague as their goal was foreign markets from the beginning and it was much safer to do business there than in 90’s Russia. Most of their programmers and RnD were Russians, they had close ties with several top Russian Universities to hire students from there. But yes, in…
And they're still considered Russian company, how hilarious.
They were choosing between being humiliated and losing customers, now they're both humiliated and losing customers.
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I find this and the emacs sentiment really weird. I use vim daily for quick edits, but for any sizeable codebase, especially new/unfamiliar, IDE's are just better. It's like depriving yourself of a bunch of tools and helpers for no visible benefit.
Strongly disagree, but I am in a niche field, Linux kernel development. Emacs is really struggling with it's tools. But for Neovim: the plugins and good keycombos are absolutely essential to get certain functionality for my productivity. * rg with telescope window to quickly find text in very large code basis is essential. * Pressing spc, spc, to bring up a telescope window of my open buffers and typing in text to na…
First I've heard of this. As a long-time vanilla Emacs user, I'm using consult-ripgrep and rg-project for ripgrep interfaces, consult-buffer for fast buffer and file switching, Eglot for LSP integration (mainly with clangd), etc. I've also got org-mode for note taking, magit for speedy Git manipulation, etc.
And all without any visible menus or clutter.
I suspect that a power Emacs user and a power Neovim user are more akin here to each other than to VS Code users.
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>Magit alone makes VS Code look like a child's finger painting. Magit is indeed a great git client, but I don't see what that has to do with emacs having bad defaults and an out of box experience that could be charitably described as antique.
Antique means stable. When you've been using the same thing for 20 years changing defaults to be trendy isn't a plus. You'll understand in 20 years when you're on your 4th IDE which will change the world^tm.
And it also means obsolete.
>You'll understand in 20 years when you're on your 4th IDE which will change the world^tm.
How condescending.
But no, I probably won't mind changing editors every few years because I am capable of learning new things and do not require a safe space to keep me insulated from the outside world.
I've seen so many editors come and go, and yet I've been using Vim for the past 20 years and have never had a problem. As stupid as it sounds, if I could give one piece of advice to any entry level SWE, it would be to learn Vim or Emacs and just stick with it for your whole career.
I find this and the emacs sentiment really weird. I use vim daily for quick edits, but for any sizeable codebase, especially new/unfamiliar, IDE's are just better. It's like depriving yourself of a bunch of tools and helpers for no visible benefit.
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It takes seconds or more to grep for a function, especially if it has a common name. It takes milliseconds to Go To Definition / Find Usages (either with an IDE or a LSP extension for any text editor).
If they're not using fzf, ctags or LSP at all, sure. But find and grep absolutely have their place, and I tend to use them even when using IntelliJ/VSCode.
I know this is so common to say that it's a joke at this point but... I'd just quit. If people in my company are making sweeping decisions that I disagree with (how much they are based in reality aside), I would just leave. If the company isn't aligning with you on something you feel passionately about, just leave. There are oodles of companies out there that would align with you on this.
I quit over principles about 9 months and 800 job applications ago. I'd advise not to do it unless you're sitting on a pile of cash.
I've seen so many editors come and go, and yet I've been using Vim for the past 20 years and have never had a problem. As stupid as it sounds, if I could give one piece of advice to any entry level SWE, it would be to learn Vim or Emacs and just stick with it for your whole career.
As someone who programs Java daily and uses Neovim daily, I don't think I could be any less productive than when programming with Java in nvim. Some features that I do not have in nvim, but use daily in IntelliJ: Run configurations, proper debugger, SQL integration, hot reloading, and most importantly everything just working OOTB (auto complete, snippets, docs, ...). Can (n)vim do these things? Probably, but it'd tak…
ive never seen any vim-with-plugins setup come close to this
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Antique means stable. When you've been using the same thing for 20 years changing defaults to be trendy isn't a plus. You'll understand in 20 years when you're on your 4th IDE which will change the world^tm.
>Antique means stable. And it also means obsolete. >You'll understand in 20 years when you're on your 4th IDE which will change the world^tm. How condescending. But no, I probably won't mind changing editors every few years because I am capable of learning new things and do not require a safe space to keep me insulated from the outside world.