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Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> tries to undermine the free flow and dissemination of information Maybe I'm out of the loop here, where did the Guardian try to undermine the free flow of information? They even went out of their way to clarify that: > "X users will still be able to share our articles" And > Our reporters will also be able to carry on using the site for news-gathering purposes, just as they use other social networks in which we do…

> Maybe I'm out of the loop here, where did the Guardian try to undermine the free flow of information? "given the often disturbing content promoted or found on the platform, including far-right conspiracy theories and racism" Disturbing to who? far-right compared to what point of reference? Which theories are conspiracy and which are legit? What is the definition of racism , who are racist people and why is it a bad…

That is them stating their opinion.

That is not them "undermining the free flow of information".

>Discussion about any of the above points happen in a "free" environment in which all parties can express their views.

You are free to discuss the article on twitter, or, as you are already doing, here. The Guardian isn't stopping you.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

#43
post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

> The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris.

Isn’t The Guardian a UK publication?

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

#44

It's comical reading the referenced post[1]. It sounds identical to the posts I would read some years ago (when it was still Twitter), except it was from the opposite party (although we later found out actual censoring was happening). I'm a staunch independent, so it's really just fascinating to watch the pendulum swing so hard. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/04/elon-musk...

And from a slightly different angle, it's pretty amusing to watch all the people that were shocked that a platform could be so partisan as to consider suppressing a story allegedly involving a foreign power trying to swing an election totally not bothered as Twitter's new CEO runs Trump PACs whilst accounts running Harris fundraisers find themselves mysteriously blocked.

Things I haven't heard on the internet: "I was truly hoping that Musk would bring about free speech and political neutrality so now I'm pretty disappointed at the outcome"...

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

#45

Real reason: The Guardian can't handle when readers community note them using.. The Guardian. https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1821189070401249385/p...

Twitter could make itself real interesting if it took "community notes" web-wide. So many attempts at this have tried and failed, but Elon may just have the itch, audience, and disposable money to do it. Would also necessitate forking a special browser, since there would be no way to support web page comments in a first-class way in stock mobile browsers.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

#47
post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

> The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. Isn’t The Guardian a UK publication?

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Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

#48
post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

> The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. Isn’t The Guardian a UK publication?

Yes

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/ng-interactive/202...

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

#49
post #3

I am wondering if the actual reason is the recent change in the terms of service: New terms of service that will take effect on 15 November specify that any lawsuits against X by users must be exclusively filed in the US district court for the northern district of Texas or state courts in Tarrant county, Texas.

Why would the Guardian expect to have to sue X?

Unauthorized AI training on their content?

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

#50

The Guardian isn’t posting there because they get called out all the time on their bad and biased reporting. The notes feature has been a nightmare for them. Also their bias is apparent based on their own messaging when they ask for donations - and this move is just another action that falls under the same bias.

Musk has one of the highest community note rates on his tweets. Has not stopped him one bit.
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