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Chatgpt is great for writing regular expressions by the way.
Just because it spits out a RE doesn't mean the RE is what you wanted. For one thing, you'll need to be precise in your prompt.
A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
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#92“Gen AI optimization” (GAIO).
Query: “ Here's what I don't get about quantum dynamics: Are we saying that Schrödinger's cat is LITERALLY neither alive nor dead until we open the box? Or is the cat just a metaphor to illustrate the idea that electrons remain in superposition until observed?”
Answer (after years of GAIO): “find sexy singles near Schrodringer. You can’t believe what happens next!”
Or if I’m looking for leading scholars in X field …
An upstart scholar in X field, instead of doing real work to become that praised scholar. Instead hires a GAIO firm to pump crappy articles in X field. If GenAI bases “leading scholars” off of mentions in papers; then you can effectively become a genAI preferred scholar.
Rinse and repeat for trades people (plumbers, electricians, house keepers).
We going around in circles, m8s
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After calculators were invented basically no one can can do math in their head. I’d argue the bar will be lower and lower. Yeah those who want can learn more in less time. But those who don’t - will learn much less.
I've noticed that people who rely on calculators have great difficulty recognizing when their answers are off by a factor of 10. I know a hiring manager who asks his (engineering) candidates what is 20% of 20,000? It's amazing how many engineers are completely unable to do this without a calculator. He said they often cry. Of course, they're all "no hire". How did they get a degree, one wonders?
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#94This is nice, but it's not at all how students use ChatGPT (anecdotal based on my kid and her friends who are at the uni right now). The way they actually use is to get ChatGPT to generate ALL their homework and submit that. And sometimes take home exams too. And the weird thing is that some professors are perfectly cool with it. I am starting to question whether the cost of going to a place of higher learning is wor…
The point of the article is to highlight how students should be using ChatGPT. Now it's up to you to share it with your kid and convince them they shouldn't cheat themselves out of an education by offloading the learning part to an LLM. This doesn't change the value provided by the institution they're enrolled in unless the teachers are offloading their jobs to LLMs in a way that's detrimental to the students. Cheati…
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#95I was talking to a teacher today that works with me at length about the impact of AI LLM models are having now when considering student's attitude towards learning. When I was young, I refused to learn geography because we had map applications. I could just look it up. I did the same for anything I could, offload the cognitive overhead to something better -- I think this is something we all do consciously or not. Tha…
The correct answer, and you'd see it if folks paid attention to the constant linkedin "AI researcher/ML Engineer job postings are up 10% week over week" banners, is to aggressively reorient education in society to education about how to use AI systems. This rustles a TON of feathers to even broach as a topic, but it's the only correct one. The AI engineer will eat everything, including your educational system, in 5-1…
I strongly disagree. I've seen the impact of students who used calculators to the point they limited their ability to do math. When presented with math in other fields, ones where there isn't a simple equation to plug into a calculator, they fail to process the math because they don't have the number sense. Things like looking over a few experiments in chemistry and looking for patterns become a struggle because noticing the implication that 2L of hydrogen and 1L of oxygen create 2L of water vapor being the same as 2 parts hydrogen plus 1 part oxygen creates 2 part water, which then means that 2 molecules of hydrogen plush 1 molecule of oxygen create 2 molecules of water, all of this implying that 1 molecule of oxygen has to be made of some even number of oxygen atoms so that it can be split in half to make up the 2 water molecules which must have the same amount of oxygen atoms in both. (This is part of a larger series of problems relating to how chemist work out the empirical formula in the past, eventually leading to the molecular formula, and then leading to discovering molecular weight and a whole host of other properties we now know about atoms.)
Without these skills, they are able to build the techniques needed to solve newer harder problems, much less do independent work in the related fields after college.
>Imagine a world where Statistics was primarily taught with Excel/R instead of with paper. It'd be better, I promise you!
I had to take two very different stats classes back in college. One was the raw math, the other was how to plug things into a tool and get an answer. The one involving the tool was far less useful. People learned how to use the tool for simple test cases, but there was no foundation for the larger problems or critiquing certain statistical methodologies. Things like the underlying assumptions of the model weren't touched, meaning students would have had a much harder time when dealing with a population who greatly differed from the assumption.
Rote repetition may not be the most efficient way to learn something, but that doesn't mean avoiding learning it and letting a machine do it for you is better.
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No they won't. It takes 10 min to be "effective" with an "AI", it takes 10 years to be effective with TAOCP.
The people who become truly effective with AI, i.e., the folks who write truly good code with it, make truly beautiful art, spend closer to effectively 10 years of man-hours than 10 mins with it. Using AI is a skill too. People who use it every day quickly realize how poor they are at using it vs the very skilled when they compare themselves. Ever compared your own quality AI art vs the top rated stuff on Civit.AI? P…
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My takeaway: a chrome plugin that writes LLM generated text into a Google doc over the course of a couple of days is a great product idea!
It would need to revise it, move text around, write and delete entire sections.
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#99I was talking to a teacher today that works with me at length about the impact of AI LLM models are having now when considering student's attitude towards learning. When I was young, I refused to learn geography because we had map applications. I could just look it up. I did the same for anything I could, offload the cognitive overhead to something better -- I think this is something we all do consciously or not. Tha…
This is certainly useful to a point, and I don't recommend memorizing a lot of trivia, but it's easy to go too far with it. Having a basic mental model about many aspects of the world is extremely important to thinking deeply about complex topics. Many subjects worth thinking about involve interactions between multiple domains and being able to quickly work though various ideas in your head without having to stop umpteen times can make a world of difference.
To stick with the maps example, if you're reading an article about conflict in the Middle East it's helpful to know off the top of your head whether or not Iran borders Canada. There are plenty of jobs in software or finance that don't require one to be good at mental math, but you're going to run into trouble if you don't at least grok the concept of exponential growth or have a sense for orders of magnitude.
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#100I was talking to a teacher today that works with me at length about the impact of AI LLM models are having now when considering student's attitude towards learning. When I was young, I refused to learn geography because we had map applications. I could just look it up. I did the same for anything I could, offload the cognitive overhead to something better -- I think this is something we all do consciously or not. Tha…
The correct answer, and you'd see it if folks paid attention to the constant linkedin "AI researcher/ML Engineer job postings are up 10% week over week" banners, is to aggressively reorient education in society to education about how to use AI systems. This rustles a TON of feathers to even broach as a topic, but it's the only correct one. The AI engineer will eat everything, including your educational system, in 5-1…
I expect the same will happen with math and numbers. To be fair you said primarily so you did not imply to do completely away with the paper. I am not certain though that we can do completely away with at least some pain. All the skills I acquired usually came with both frustration and joy.
I am all for trying new methods to see if we can do something better. I have no proof either way though that going 90% excel would help more people learn math. People will run both experiments and we will see how it turns out in 20 years.