Earlier quoted context omitted.
Believe it or not, ignorance is not the main reason people don't use emacs
People who write “our only real option is VSCode” about Python and Go programmers are ignorant of what Emacs can do. Some people may prefer something else, but Emacs is a real option.
My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
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Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#42I've seen so many editors come and go, and yet I've been using Vim for the past 20 years and have never had a problem. As stupid as it sounds, if I could give one piece of advice to any entry level SWE, it would be to learn Vim or Emacs and just stick with it for your whole career.
I find this and the emacs sentiment really weird. I use vim daily for quick edits, but for any sizeable codebase, especially new/unfamiliar, IDE's are just better. It's like depriving yourself of a bunch of tools and helpers for no visible benefit.
Each was going to kill Emacs.
Somehow, I think I'll be using a version of Emacs until the day I can no longer type.
Meanwhile, everyone else is wasting months getting up to speed on the latest and greatest thing every 8 years or so.
This adds up over a career.
Oh, and by the by, this was written in Emacs using GhostText as the link between Firefox and Emacs.
Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#43I've seen so many editors come and go, and yet I've been using Vim for the past 20 years and have never had a problem. As stupid as it sounds, if I could give one piece of advice to any entry level SWE, it would be to learn Vim or Emacs and just stick with it for your whole career.
But this is people that use their autocomplete, F8 step through debugging and the like. I was like that about 20 years ago, working with Eclipse and later NetBeans for Java and Visual Studio for C# .net v1 (anyone remembers whole tomato extensions?). I needed the IDE , the autocomplete, the debugger and all that. Nowadays, I do mostly Vim and Vscode for more complex projects. I don't know why, but I "grew out" of nee…
Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#44> We are primarily a Go and Python shop, which means our only real option is VSCode I’d like to echo the sentiments of Reddit user tikhonjelvis, who commented¹: “Man, I knew CS programs were skimping on Emacs fundamentals, but I hadn't realized it was this bad.” 1. https://old.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/1gqj7qa/my... >
Believe it or not, ignorance is not the main reason people don't use emacs
Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#45> We are primarily a Go and Python shop, which means our only real option is VSCode I’d like to echo the sentiments of Reddit user tikhonjelvis, who commented¹: “Man, I knew CS programs were skimping on Emacs fundamentals, but I hadn't realized it was this bad.” 1. https://old.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/1gqj7qa/my... >
Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
People who write “our only real option is VSCode” about Python and Go programmers are ignorant of what Emacs can do. Some people may prefer something else, but Emacs is a real option.
Or, they are aware of what Emacs can do and still consider it to not be a real option for other reasons.
Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#47IIRC jetbrains was a russian company, backed by people close to putin. Then they "migrated" away from russia (jetbrains users are 90% westerners) to avoid losing their users, and even made some blog post about it, but from what i have heard the people behind the curtains whose names are in no legal papers are in fact still the same people with close ties to putin and his inner circle.
'from what I have heard'? From where?
>The official reason given was that Jetbrains has Russian ties. No amount of arguing could get leadership to reverse the decision.
Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#48Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#49I know this is so common to say that it's a joke at this point but... I'd just quit. If people in my company are making sweeping decisions that I disagree with (how much they are based in reality aside), I would just leave. If the company isn't aligning with you on something you feel passionately about, just leave. There are oodles of companies out there that would align with you on this.
I quit over principles about 9 months and 800 job applications ago. I'd advise not to do it unless you're sitting on a pile of cash.
Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally
#50IIRC jetbrains was a russian company, backed by people close to putin. Then they "migrated" away from russia (jetbrains users are 90% westerners) to avoid losing their users, and even made some blog post about it, but from what i have heard the people behind the curtains whose names are in no legal papers are in fact still the same people with close ties to putin and his inner circle.