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Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally

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I know this is so common to say that it's a joke at this point but...

I'd just quit. If people in my company are making sweeping decisions that I disagree with (how much they are based in reality aside), I would just leave. If the company isn't aligning with you on something you feel passionately about, just leave. There are oodles of companies out there that would align with you on this.

Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally

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post #3

I know this is so common to say that it's a joke at this point but... I'd just quit. If people in my company are making sweeping decisions that I disagree with (how much they are based in reality aside), I would just leave. If the company isn't aligning with you on something you feel passionately about, just leave. There are oodles of companies out there that would align with you on this.

I hope you understand how privileged you are to be able to say that and hopefully do what you say.

Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally

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Useful link to the JetBrains blog from the Reddit discussion: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2022/12/06/update-on-jetbrai...

From that blog post (2022):

> In addition to terminating all sales, all of our offices in Russia, including Moscow, Novosibirsk, and St. Petersburg were shut down. Work on the new campus in St. Petersburg was also terminated. All R&D activities were gradually stopped and liquidation papers for our Russian legal entity were filed in August 2022.

Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally

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> We are primarily a Go and Python shop, which means our only real option is VSCode

I’d like to echo the sentiments of Reddit user tikhonjelvis, who commented¹:

“Man, I knew CS programs were skimping on Emacs fundamentals, but I hadn't realized it was this bad.”

1. https://old.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/1gqj7qa/my...>

Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally

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IIRC jetbrains was a russian company, backed by people close to putin. Then they "migrated" away from russia (jetbrains users are 90% westerners) to avoid losing their users, and even made some blog post about it, but from what i have heard the people behind the curtains whose names are in no legal papers are in fact still the same people with close ties to putin and his inner circle.

Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally

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post #3

I know this is so common to say that it's a joke at this point but... I'd just quit. If people in my company are making sweeping decisions that I disagree with (how much they are based in reality aside), I would just leave. If the company isn't aligning with you on something you feel passionately about, just leave. There are oodles of companies out there that would align with you on this.

You say as if it was so easy to get a new job in 2024... Have you tried to check how the job market is right now?

Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally

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I've seen so many editors come and go, and yet I've been using Vim for the past 20 years and have never had a problem. As stupid as it sounds, if I could give one piece of advice to any entry level SWE, it would be to learn Vim or Emacs and just stick with it for your whole career.

Re: My company has banned the use of Jetbrains IDEs internally

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post #5

Useful link to the JetBrains blog from the Reddit discussion: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2022/12/06/update-on-jetbrai... From that blog post (2022): > In addition to terminating all sales, all of our offices in Russia, including Moscow, Novosibirsk, and St. Petersburg were shut down. Work on the new campus in St. Petersburg was also terminated. All R&D activities were gradually stopped and liquidation papers for…

And a fair amount of people were relocated, Russian and Ukrainian both. I wanted to be mad at JetBrains for joining the “screw the closest Russian we can get our hands on” wave[1], but I’m not really able to because of that.

[1] A contemporary joke went (hope the translation works): “Durex has announced it is leaving Russia. When asked for comment, the company’s representative responded, ‘Not our fucking problem now.’ ”

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