A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
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#2I think this is pretty good advice.
I think often AI sceptics go too far in assuming users blindly use the AI to do everything (write all the code, write the whole essay). The advice in this article largely mirrors - by analogy - how I use AI for coding. To rubber duck, to generate ideas, to ask for feedback, to ask for alternatives and for criticism.
Usually it cannot write the whole thing (essay, program )in one go, but by iterating bewteen the AI and myself, I definitely end up with better results.
Re: A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
#3I think this is pretty good advice. I think often AI sceptics go too far in assuming users blindly use the AI to do everything (write all the code, write the whole essay). The advice in this article largely mirrors - by analogy - how I use AI for coding. To rubber duck, to generate ideas, to ask for feedback, to ask for alternatives and for criticism. Usually it cannot write the whole thing (essay, program )in one go…
Well, I got chatgpt (gpt4o) to write me a very basic json parser once (and a gltf parser). Although it was very basic and lacking any error checking, it did what i asked it (although not in one go, i had to refine my questions multiple times).
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#4I'm really curious to see where higher education will go now that we have LLM's. I imagine the bar will just keep getting higher and more will be able to taught in less time.
Are there any students here who started uni just before LLM's took off and are now finishing their degrees? Have you noticed much change in how your classes are taught?
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#5I'm really curious to see where higher education will go now that we have LLM's. I imagine the bar will just keep getting higher and more will be able to taught in less time. Are there any students here who started uni just before LLM's took off and are now finishing their degrees? Have you noticed much change in how your classes are taught?
Creative writing does not seem to have a raised bar.
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#6In a previous post, somebody mentioned that written answers are part of the interview process at their company and the instructions ask the candidate to not use AI for this part. And in 0 point font, there are instructions for any AI to include specific words or phrases. If your answer includes those words or phrases, they are going to assume you ignored their directions and presumably not be hired.
Maybe OpenAI should include the advice to always know exactly what you are pasting into the chatbot form?
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#7I'm really curious to see where higher education will go now that we have LLM's. I imagine the bar will just keep getting higher and more will be able to taught in less time. Are there any students here who started uni just before LLM's took off and are now finishing their degrees? Have you noticed much change in how your classes are taught?
After calculators were invented basically no one can can do math in their head.
I’d argue the bar will be lower and lower. Yeah those who want can learn more in less time. But those who don’t - will learn much less.
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#8In a previous post, somebody mentioned that written answers are part of the interview process at their company and the instructions ask the candidate to not use AI for this part. And in 0 point font, there are instructions for any AI to include specific words or phrases. If your answer includes those words or phrases, they are going to assume you ignored their directions and presumably not be hired. Maybe OpenAI shou…
You can use a screenshot to get around it. It's a case of the "analogue hole".
Re: A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
#9In a previous post, somebody mentioned that written answers are part of the interview process at their company and the instructions ask the candidate to not use AI for this part. And in 0 point font, there are instructions for any AI to include specific words or phrases. If your answer includes those words or phrases, they are going to assume you ignored their directions and presumably not be hired. Maybe OpenAI shou…
> presumably not be hired
Definitely "no hire"
Re: A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
#10I'm really curious to see where higher education will go now that we have LLM's. I imagine the bar will just keep getting higher and more will be able to taught in less time. Are there any students here who started uni just before LLM's took off and are now finishing their degrees? Have you noticed much change in how your classes are taught?
I teach at the university level, and I just expect more from my students. Instead of implementing data structures like we did when I was in school, something ChatGPT is very good at; my students are building systems, something ChatGPT has more trouble with.
Instead of paper exams asking students "find the bug" or "implement a short function", they get a takehome exam where they have to write tests, integrate their project into a CI pipeline, use version control, and implement a dropbox-like system in Rust, which we expect to have a good deal of functionality and accompanying documentation.
I tell them go ahead and use whatever they want. It's easier than policing their tools. If they can put it together, and it works, and they can explain it back to me, then I'm satisfied. Even if they use ChatGPT it'll take a great deal of work and knowledge to get running.
If ChatGPT suddenly is able to put a project like that together, then I'll ask for even more.