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Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts

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Post by daqnz »

sgc wrote: post #17

I have been looking into setting up my first Proxmox box, here is my take as a newcomer. I wanted to do what I think is a very basic and very common setup: Modem > proxmox box > OPNsense VM > physical wifi router via onboard 10Gb NIC + internal network VMs like OMV etc. The goal is to add a full network filter via OPNsense, and allow access to a media sever and backup etc from the internal network. I see no OPNsense,…

There is no OPNSense script I think historically in part because any misconfig could expose the Promox instance to the world. It is easy enough for advanced users to spin up a VM with the ISO. There has been a request for a OPNSense script made recently.

I agree with OMV. It certainly can be used as is, but not usually how people want to use it. A note was added to the script a few days ago.

> I don't see any glue scripts to get VMs talking to each other

There is a Tailscale script which technically helps them talk to each other (over Tailscale) :)

The scripts are designed to setup self contained LCX containers. We are trying to avoid building our own k8s.

Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts

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Post by unixhero »

xrd wrote: post #23

Am I right that proxmox takes over your entire machine? I have been using a combination of docker and lxc/lxd to manage my VMs. But, cockpit (on ubuntu) does not give me a perfect experience for managing running VMS, etc. I wish there was a good solution for all of this. But, it feels like you need to cobble together a bunch of kibana tools to get true monitoring.

Monitoring is there in Proxmox

Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts

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Post by placardloop »

WaxProlix wrote: post #5

I decided to run proxmox on my homelab rather than having a k8s setup, and I've come to sort of regret it. LXCs are awesome, but being bound to just them or qemu VMs doesn't fit all of my needs. With Kubernetes I could just add support for lightweight VMs (Firecracker hypervisor, or unikernels or something) with a project like Kata. Proxmox is just not extensible. It's also just not amenable to automation or reproduc…

Proxmox doesn’t preclude you from having k8s. You can create VM(s) in Proxmox and then install k8s on them, then run your app workloads in k8s.

You do have to treat Proxmox VMs like “pets, not cattle” since they are more difficult to automate, but that’s the same story as if you were managing your k8s host on bare metal too. The benefit with Proxmox-hosted VMs though is that you can use Proxmox for whole-VM backups and migrations, so you can have the best of both proxmox and k8s!

Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts

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Post by unixhero »

doubled112 wrote: post #19
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried incus? https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/

I moved my Proxmox single node home-prod setup to Incus over the last couple of weeks. Incus feels a lot less…legacy? Old school? Something. Not a lot different when it gets down to it though. It’s easier to work at the CLI with Incus. Backups are a little less straight forward.

Proxmox isn't legacy, far from it.

Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts

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Post by evoke4908 »

I doubt you have a whole lot of control over this, but this website is misery to use on a phone. Browsing scripts gives you six or ten tiles per page, navigation buttons are only in the header. There are no page numbers or any indication of progress. At a glance, there appears to be no way of filtering or sorting, although there is some arbitrary grouping being applied in the middle of the list. Also the script descriptions only show three lines of text, which is not nearly enough to give a clue to what the script is for.

This is probably the worst implemented list view I've ever seen. Completely useless.

Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts

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Post by jdboyd »

xrd wrote: post #23

Am I right that proxmox takes over your entire machine? I have been using a combination of docker and lxc/lxd to manage my VMs. But, cockpit (on ubuntu) does not give me a perfect experience for managing running VMS, etc. I wish there was a good solution for all of this. But, it feels like you need to cobble together a bunch of kibana tools to get true monitoring.

Usually, proxmox is the base OS (meaing replaces whatever Linux/Windows/FreeBSD/etc that there was before). It is possible to run Proxmox inside KVM, but that isn't the usual choice.

Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts

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Post by pkaye »

jamifsud wrote: post #37

Tangential question - what are people using their homelab for / what are some interesting or useful projects you've spun up on them? I've been thinking about setting one up but not 100% sure I'd find use out of it :)

I started with a home lab a few months back. Its basically an old miniPC running Proxmox virtualization and LCX containers. Mostly it helps me learn various technology I have not much experience with in my work. I run about 20+ services on the home lab. Some of them include:

Open WebUI which can connect to the OpenAI api or a local Ollama LLM. You can also connect various tools to the LLM like a calculator or web search to augment them. The AI has helped me learn how to configure and debug stuff. Like I got step-ca to setup a local certificate authority and give certificates to my various internal services. I played around with configuring Caddy and Nginx along with ACME to the the step-ca. The LLM was even helping be debug my config files.

I'm also using Hoarder for bookmarking and it can use AI to automatically tag your bookmarks. It can even backup the webpages.

I've been using Mealie to clip and save online recipes.

I'm running Uptime Kuma to check if my computers and services are up and if they are down, I'll get a notification.

Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts

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Post by pkaye »

xrd wrote: post #23

Am I right that proxmox takes over your entire machine? I have been using a combination of docker and lxc/lxd to manage my VMs. But, cockpit (on ubuntu) does not give me a perfect experience for managing running VMS, etc. I wish there was a good solution for all of this. But, it feels like you need to cobble together a bunch of kibana tools to get true monitoring.

Proxmox runs on top of Debian. The Debian is part of the install but I think you could install the packages separately on an existing Debian install. You could even install cockpit if you want to.
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