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Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by tmottabr »

krapp wrote: post #130
adzm wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, it's a really fun community. I hope it lasts

Unfortunately, Bluesky being the "popular" alternative just means it's going to turn to shit faster. I have an account there because so many people seem to be moving from Twitter to Bluesky instead of Mastodon, for understandable reasons, but I expect Bluesky to be be awash in bots, AI and Nazis within a year. That's just the way things go now.

I dont think it will because the moderation tools available to people are better and actually work..

If i block someone they are gone from my timeline, their replies are gone from my posts even to other people..

If someone re-post me and i don't like the context i can go there and "disconnect" my post from their re-post..

Also Bluesky has public block lists anyone can create and sign-up for, those accounts would be noticed very fast and included in some block list if they start getting any traction..

So while it is not impossible for those accounts to exist, it is much harder for then to get traction..

And if they get traction it is much easier to hide then from our and our followers view..

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by sph »

tfandango wrote: post #146
philistine wrote: post #137

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Tolerating intolerance is completely unacceptable. How can you justify accepting and tolerating someone who’s point of view is I think you should have less rights than me .

This is called the Paradox of Tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance Essentially you should be tolerant of others, unless they themselves are intolerant.

> Essentially you should be tolerant of others, unless they themselves are intolerant.

No, it's called a paradox because there is no "easy" answer to it. Also, who determines the exact line between free speech and intolerance? It is impossible to do. The reason the world is polarised today is because everybody thinks they have the simple answer to a literal ethical paradox that has none. The simple answer being: "those that share my beliefs are OK, those that don't should be canceled/demonised/hidden somewhere I don't see them." Thus creating echo chambers so people get more and more radical.

Free speech is the only half acceptable answer, which means free speech for anyone, whatever their point of view, however offensive you deem them to be. Rowan Atkinson explained it more eloquently that I ever could: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUezfuy8Qpc

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by coolspot »

forgotoldacc wrote: post #49
minimaxir wrote: post #13

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Threads has become worse over time due to a series of anti-user policy decisions (no news/politics) and a very weird Discover algorithm that strongly incentivizes clickbait (and said feed is the default on the app and cannot be changed)

Threads only fed me straight up celebrity posts, despite having absolutely zero interest in that, when I signed up back when it was new. I can't imagine how much worse it is now.

Fresh twitter account is fed the same: NBA, celebs, funny videos. You have to “dislike”, mute and block to make your timeline show good stuff.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by tfandango »

sph wrote: post #162
tfandango wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is called the Paradox of Tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance Essentially you should be tolerant of others, unless they themselves are intolerant.

> Essentially you should be tolerant of others, unless they themselves are intolerant. No, it's called a paradox because there is no "easy" answer to it. Also, who determines the exact line between free speech and intolerance? It is impossible to do. The reason the world is polarised today is because everybody thinks they have the simple answer to a literal ethical paradox that has none. The simple answer being: "tho…

I partially agree with you. There is probably a fuzzy line somewhere in between, but reasonable people on either side of it should be able to discuss their disagreements without resorting to canceling each other. However, the challenge arises when dealing with those who lie to manipulate. This isn’t about differing opinions; it’s about the integrity of the discourse. Tolerating such behavior only gives credence to falsehoods, hence "paradox".

I agree free speech must be protected, whatever it is, but it doesn’t mean we should accept manipulation and deceit. The goal should be to foster genuine dialogue, not to create echo chambers or allow harmful lies to spread unchecked.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by 6bb32646d83d »

bhouston wrote: post #2

I can attest that BlueSky is really nice right now. Feels less combative than Twitter. I started to use it 25 days ago and got 400 or so follows pretty quickly. I am here: https://bsky.app/profile/benhouston3d.bsky.social I used this tool to find accounts that match on both platforms: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sky-follower-bridge...

I just scrolled 5mn on the landing page of bluesky, unlogged, and it looks like r/politics (mostly anti-Trump, anti-Musk posts).

Hardly appealing for someone like me who goes on twitter less because there's too much politics

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by andreygrehov »

app wrote: post #71
andreygrehov wrote: post #5

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Based on your replies I doubt there’s anything that would actually convince you, but as it happens the data is pretty public and there are plenty of charts charts: https://bsky.app/profile/jaz.bsky.social/post/3lamm7liwrc2w https://bsky.app/profile/jglypt.net/post/3lahqd45qqw2y https://bsky.app/profile/alice.mosphere.at/post/3lac4bbxhty2...

This was confirmed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42118867

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by rsynnott »

krapp wrote: post #130
adzm wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, it's a really fun community. I hope it lasts

Unfortunately, Bluesky being the "popular" alternative just means it's going to turn to shit faster. I have an account there because so many people seem to be moving from Twitter to Bluesky instead of Mastodon, for understandable reasons, but I expect Bluesky to be be awash in bots, AI and Nazis within a year. That's just the way things go now.

One consequence of naughty ol’ Mr Car’s ascension to the Bird Throne was that mass-blocking lists, which were always a bit of a hack but somewhat worked, became unusable. Bluesky has blocklists as a first-class function; it will be awash with Nazis, but you won’t have to look at them unless you want to. AI slop may be trickier, but that’s really a challenge the whole web is facing at the moment.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by rsynnott »

mike_hearn wrote: post #125
dawnerd wrote: post #74

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it was never going to die overnight though. It's had a steady decline since the takeover.

Musk is claiming that it recently reached record usage highs, as measured by "user seconds". It's a bit unclear whether he is counting X as a different platform to Twitter though, and "user seconds" is pushed upwards by video content that takes longer to consume. But usage hasn't obviously declined since the takeover either. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1854777813464662307

Hint: when people start using a weird metric that no-one has ever hard of before, they are generally doing so because real metrics are, ah, less favourable.

For the ultimate example, see WeWork’s old ‘community adjusted EBITDA’, which was pretty much just revenue.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by slyall »

owlninja wrote: post #6
adzm wrote: post #4

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Agreed, it's a really fun community. I hope it lasts

The only thing keeping me around as someone who never comments or tweets, is that there are some great local accounts (to me) like weather, police, news, concerts, etc... Any chance these move over? I'm not looking for some great community, I just enjoy timely posts I guess.

One way people here could help with that is to improve posting tools.

I have a couple of informational bots. It's a lot easy for me when I can just download a cli tool and run that to post than if I have to signup to a platform as a developer and then write custom code to login via OAuth.

Actually if I have to write code to talk to OAuth I probably won't bother.

Currently using bsky to post to BlueSky and paying for IFTTT because I have to make time to sit down and get twurl working.

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