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Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Post by bryanlarsen »

Aurornis wrote: post #53
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #31

I don’t know what is up with the USA and its obsession that kids cannot have autonomy. I think many of us grew up where our parents didn’t know our location at all times. My parents used to tell me to be home by a certain time, but I used to roam the neighborhood, go get candy at the gas station, explore the forest. Maybe it is a sign of the eroding social trust in the USA where people do not believe that others in t…

> I don’t know what is up with the USA and its obsession that kids cannot have autonomy. This is a news story and a controversy because it's a weird thing that happened. The US is a big place. Societal norms and law enforcement practices vary widely from location to location. This appears to be one sheriff pushing a personal agenda.

It's not just one sheriff, it's:

- the busybody who called the cops in the first place

- the sheriff

- the Assistant District Attorney

- the Department of Family and Child Services

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Post by slantaclaus »

avmich wrote: post #6

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-parentsusas-fight-for-bri... - "Support ParentsUSA's Fight for Brit's Parental Rights"

I would but PayPal banned me for life for taking payments for the sale of CBD oil in the early days of my CBD oil startup

Update: I kicked in $50 anyway. This story really infuriated me and I felt strongly enough to fill it out manually.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Post by rbanffy »

MostlyStable wrote: post #59
quantified wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no crime actually mentioned. What are the charges?

>If the state does prosecute, Patterson could face a reckless conduct charge, a $1,000 fine, and a year in jail. From the article, apparently it's "reckless conduct"

That sounds very ambiguous. Is installing Windows XP on an internet connected PC considered reckless? Is it driving a vintage car?

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Post by rbanffy »

kleiba wrote: post #82

Maybe we should consider changing out National anthem's lyrics from "home of the free" to "home of the safe"? Would rhyme better with "brave", too.

Too soon to make this joke. Wait a couple years. He’ll have it fixed and you won’t need to ever vote again.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Post by whitfieldsdad »

geff82 wrote: post #70

Isn't it equally bad in Canada? That said... stories like these are incomprehensible for the European mind.

Maybe, but, I've never heard of any cases like this.

Granted, I'm only 32, have only lived in Canada for 32 years, and haven't checked to see how common it is for parents to be sent to prison for things like this.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Post by xethos »

Aurornis wrote: post #53
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #31

I don’t know what is up with the USA and its obsession that kids cannot have autonomy. I think many of us grew up where our parents didn’t know our location at all times. My parents used to tell me to be home by a certain time, but I used to roam the neighborhood, go get candy at the gas station, explore the forest. Maybe it is a sign of the eroding social trust in the USA where people do not believe that others in t…

> I don’t know what is up with the USA and its obsession that kids cannot have autonomy. This is a news story and a controversy because it's a weird thing that happened. The US is a big place. Societal norms and law enforcement practices vary widely from location to location. This appears to be one sheriff pushing a personal agenda.

If it were one sheriff, the person driving by in their SUV wouldn't have called the cops. This is a wider phenomenon than you're letting on here

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Post by SturgeonsLaw »

MostlyStable wrote: post #59
quantified wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no crime actually mentioned. What are the charges?

>If the state does prosecute, Patterson could face a reckless conduct charge, a $1,000 fine, and a year in jail. From the article, apparently it's "reckless conduct"

Sounds about right, it's one of those charges like "obstructing justice" that is so broad the cops can throw it out when there wasn't any real crime

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Post by kryptozinc »

eitally wrote: post #20
3pt14159 wrote: post #8

When I was five years old I would walk along a path and take a bridge across a river to visit my friend to play board games. By the time I was nine I was bicycling forty-five minutes to school on a 80 km/h road. The level of paranoia that's infected people around keeping kids near their parents is insane.

Yes, but. For all of the happy survivor stories like yours (and mine), the reality is that the rate of child accidental deaths has steadily decreases over the past few decades as parents (and society) became more protective. That isn't to say I agree with over-parenting and eliminating independence -- I don't -- but there needs to be rationality applied as well as personal values.

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