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Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by encom »

coder543 wrote: post #330
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #310

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I used this. It worked fine. It's a shame it's necessary though... I wish there was some kind of vendor-neutral import/export format rather than requiring a third party to solve the whole matrix of integrations.

The music industry needs to more widely use some kind of equivalent to the ISBN that the book industry uses. A simple "ISMN" list per playlist/library would be all that would be needed to move between services when both apps have the same songs. One could also imagine a standardized ismn:// URL format that could open in your preferred music app, and this could work even without a streaming service if you already own…

This exists and is called ISRC. This metadata is embedded in a subchannel on CD's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Recordi...

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by coder543 »

encom wrote: post #361
coder543 wrote: post #330

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The music industry needs to more widely use some kind of equivalent to the ISBN that the book industry uses. A simple "ISMN" list per playlist/library would be all that would be needed to move between services when both apps have the same songs. One could also imagine a standardized ismn:// URL format that could open in your preferred music app, and this could work even without a streaming service if you already own…

This exists and is called ISRC. This metadata is embedded in a subchannel on CD's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Recordi...

Cool, I didn’t know that. I wish it were actually used by the various music apps.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by devmunchies »

Aeolun wrote: post #124
devmunchies wrote: post #120

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I recently learned about buying Mp3s on Amazon. Most CD purchase pages have a "purchase options" and you can do Mp3s. I do that for mainstream things for my kids that aren't on bandcamp (such as music from a kids TV show). I'm actually working on a IoT device where one of the main goals was selfhosting audio content for my kids. Uses AI for the user interface. Similar to Alexa but battery powered. Still in private be…

It exploded. I get only server errors now.

What do i even pay Vercel for?! gah

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by skydhash »

bluGill wrote: post #291
LeoPanthera wrote: post #56

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If the store of your choice offers FLAC as an option (and I think they all do), you can simply make your own MP3s from the FLAC files. That's one of the biggest advantages of lossless audio. (The improvement in audio quality is actually pretty minimal, for most people.) You can also keep the FLAC files to convert them to some future format later, or even do something really wild like burn them to a CD or something.

I did that for a while, but all the tools seem to have been unmaintained for the last decade. The command line ones still work, but the GUIs to make them easy still depend on qt3 or other such obsolete things. (streaming servers like jellyfin do this on the fly easy, but other workflows for offline use don't work anymore even though they are still sometimes useful)

Most people weite scripts with said tools which can keep going for a long time. I have a couple laying in my library directory to add replay gain metadata, convert to aac, and backup.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by teddyh »

I don’t have Spotify, YouTube Music, Apple Music, Deezer, SoundCloud, or Tidal. Would it be too much to ask for a link to be simply converted to the text “Songname by Artist”?

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

coder543 wrote: post #362
encom wrote: post #361

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This exists and is called ISRC. This metadata is embedded in a subchannel on CD's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Recordi...

Cool, I didn’t know that. I wish it were actually used by the various music apps.

It's a pity that compression is likely to provide subtly different data under different network conditions. If everything were lossless we could just use hashes as identifiers and proceed without the participation of the apps.

After all, they have no incentive to make this easy for us.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by skydhash »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #87
afranchuk wrote: post #11

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I've enjoyed the selection on Qobuz, which is all DRM-free and allows mp3 or lossless flac formats.

I like Qobuz too, but have a couple issues with it: * The prices are a lot higher there than anywhere else * They don't remember my payment information. I would opt-in to this if it's a legal concern. It's so annoying every single time having to enter it in all over again. I'd do PayPal but they charge a fee these days. * Their tar'd up download format sucks, and requires me doing a lot of re-naming and re-foldering…

I never trust online platforms to keep my library. I download stuff and back it up.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

Muromec wrote: post #333
coder543 wrote: post #330

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The music industry needs to more widely use some kind of equivalent to the ISBN that the book industry uses. A simple "ISMN" list per playlist/library would be all that would be needed to move between services when both apps have the same songs. One could also imagine a standardized ismn:// URL format that could open in your preferred music app, and this could work even without a streaming service if you already own…

Yeah, but the next step is to make identifier somethink like a has so the media can be content addressable. Wait, we can't have that. It's too convenient

Now we just need to associate payment/attribution related metadata with those identifiers

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by mixmastamyk »

toast0 wrote: post #256
mixmastamyk wrote: post #83

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Disc rot is not a thing for factory pressed CDs, assuming normal storage. Cheap CDRs from ~2000 or so did have the issue. My CDs from the 80s and CDRs from the 90s are working fine.

I don't use my cds too often anymore, but I've got a pressed 2-disc set of the soundtrack from the song remains the same that's became unplayable because the media developed holes. These were stored in the case in my home, mostly coastal California, no severe environmental conditions. Disc rot of pressed CDs seems rare, I don't think I've seen it on other discs, but if it happened to me, it's definitely a thing.

I'm sure defective ones exist. For kicks I just opened my first CD, Bryan Adams' Reckless, bought late '84... it's in perfect condition. Put it on, and it sounds great just like the first time.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by Ageodene »

dehrmann wrote: post #74
cdrini wrote: post #10

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I've been doing this, and here in Canada https://ca.7digital.com/ is literally the only option I've found that let's you buy normal MP3s, would highly recommend. I've been able to get modern albums without a hitch, but don't know about modern singles. I think in the US Amazon let's you buy MP3s, but not sure there. For the price of a Spotify subscription, I can usually buy a new album every month! Which is great; and…

> ...is literally the only option I've found that let's you buy normal MP3s I just went to Amazon and found what's advertised as "mp3" for a recent Taylor Swift album.

IIRC those are only 256 kbps. I get that MP3 is a lossy format, but still, they could at the very least offer 320 kbps. I was under the impression Amazon wasn't short on server space.
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