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Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by raxxorraxor »

forgotoldacc wrote: post #43

Bluesky is pretty decent so far. I get about as many responses to my art as I do with twitter, despite having 1/5th the followers on the new platform. The problem is I don't see much interesting on Bluesky. It's endless people saying "Hello, bluesky! I'm new here!" or "Hello, new bluesky users! Follow me!" Feels like there's less focus on content and more on the individuals themselves. It's further exemplified with w…

> Another thing that's strange to me is that lots of bluesky users post selfies almost nonstop and half of users have selfies as their profile photos.

Honestly that sounds like it could be bots. Although maybe it is just people making new accounts.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by RamenJunkie_ »

karaterobot wrote: post #70

My hypothesis is still that the problem isn't Twitter per se, but that Twitter-like failure modes are built in to that structure. A communications platform that has certain qualities will tend to become Twitter-like: Many-to-many, short messages, reposting, etc. These are mechanics that will just create certain kinds of behaviors. So, that would predict Bluesky having many of the same problems as Twitter sooner or la…

Yeah, except Twitter has no moderation anymore, in fact isnhas the opposite problem where people can pay to force their crappy views on everyone with blue checks.

Twitter isn't the problem, Musk is the problem. Twitter was fine until he took over. Bluesky is Twitter - Musk.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by caeril »

bhouston wrote: post #2

I can attest that BlueSky is really nice right now. Feels less combative than Twitter. I started to use it 25 days ago and got 400 or so follows pretty quickly. I am here: https://bsky.app/profile/benhouston3d.bsky.social I used this tool to find accounts that match on both platforms: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sky-follower-bridge...

> Feels less combative than Twitter.

Echo chambers are, by default, less combative.

As Twitter becomes more hiveminded, you can expect it to become less combative, as well.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by swed420 »

verzali wrote: post #108
android521 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what you need is blogs or essays. But the audience has become too small so there are fewer writers

Substack, maybe?

Although platforms like Substack alleviate some of the issues mentioned above, there still remains the most important issue of all:

FOR-PROFIT CONTENT CREATION

When I reflect on how awesome the web used to be, the one common theme was the creators were doing it for free, because their passion for whatever they were creating was simply that strong and authentic.

Fast forward to today's hellscape, and we can see the main reason there's a firehose of mediocre/low quality content is because everybody is desperate to make a buck.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by RamenJunkie_ »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #106
duxup wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> no news/politics I kinda like the IDEA there, but no idea how you separate things like “I’m concerned about my individual rights” from politics? And usually when people say “no politics” they mean “no politics I don’t like “. Still in sympathize with the idea, I want to hear from people about what they’re doing and so forth, not a rehash of the news.

> how you separate things like “I’m concerned about my individual rights” from politics? It's worse than that. You end up with lesbians posting about their girlfriends or small business owners posting a meme about a regulation they have to comply with and then getting blocked for politics if their tribe is the outgroup. What you really need is for people to not be so intolerant of the other tribe being the other trib…

That should be the norm everywhere but one tribe's entire identity is being intolprant of people and things that ultimately have zero effect on them or anyone.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by swed420 »

karaterobot wrote: post #87
EasyMark wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never thought twitter was a failure until Musk introduced $8 “pump you to the top” blue check accounts, then that’s when the bots -really- moved in because they knew they could pump propaganda for a small fee and get far more traction than they every could by setting up bot armies that were easy to detct. Bsky will be fine as long as they try to control the bots.

I guess I didn't define what I think the problems with Twitter are, and now I don't have time for a long message. But, in short, I think that format encourages echo chambers, shortens attention spans, and rewards bad behaviors like bullying, cheap shots, ungenerous reading, etc. None of those are directly related to bots (though maybe bots are a symptom of the same issues). Nor did they emerge with Musk. That Elon Mu…

> But, in short, I think that format encourages echo chambers, shortens attention spans, and rewards bad behaviors like bullying, cheap shots, ungenerous reading, etc. None of those are directly related to bots (though maybe bots are a symptom of the same issues). Nor did they emerge with Musk.

Having avoided twitter throughout its entire existence for these reasons, I absolutely agree.

Political commentator Matt Christman has a great vlog episode about the inherent problems with platforms such as Twitter, including the societal cost of being an impediment to real progress.

MIND FORCE: FIBONACCI SNIPER | CushVlog 4.29.30:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsuTh1aK7Tc

https://cushvlog-catalog.vercel.app/transcript/OsuTh1aK7Tc (transcript)

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by philistine »

sph wrote: post #120
cloverich wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what do you do when intolerance is the thing you're being asked to be tolerant of?

Tolerance indeed means tolerating the intolerant as well, otherwise it's just another name for intolerance. It's clear we completely forgot that in our polarised world.

Tolerating intolerance is completely unacceptable.

How can you justify accepting and tolerating someone who’s point of view is I think you should have less rights than me.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by theasisa »

bhouston wrote: post #2

I can attest that BlueSky is really nice right now. Feels less combative than Twitter. I started to use it 25 days ago and got 400 or so follows pretty quickly. I am here: https://bsky.app/profile/benhouston3d.bsky.social I used this tool to find accounts that match on both platforms: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sky-follower-bridge...

I used Twitter mainly to follow fellow devs, industry leaders and InfoSec people. But after Elon made changes my timeline started to fill with politics and culture wars and it ended up missing me less informed and more angry.

Maybe that is the future for BlueSky as well, but at the moment I am enjoying it and more people I followed on Twitter are making the move.

Re: Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week

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Post by mingus88 »

caeril wrote: post #133
bhouston wrote: post #2

I can attest that BlueSky is really nice right now. Feels less combative than Twitter. I started to use it 25 days ago and got 400 or so follows pretty quickly. I am here: https://bsky.app/profile/benhouston3d.bsky.social I used this tool to find accounts that match on both platforms: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sky-follower-bridge...

> Feels less combative than Twitter. Echo chambers are, by default, less combative. As Twitter becomes more hiveminded, you can expect it to become less combative, as well.

What evidence do you have that bluesky is already an echo chamber? Serious question as I haven’t used it yet.

Could it also be that people who left Twitter are simply less politically minded, and by definition will be less combative if they get to focus on their interests instead of their differences?

I left Twitter in 2017 because I was only there to get one liner jokes from professional comedians and follow some record label releases. I’m not joining any platform where memes and other low quality opinions are the primary modes of communication

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