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Study argues that movement is better than a static position (standing or sitting). Shocker. What they're obviously missing is that when you're at a standing desk, the friction to engaging in some kind of movement is drastically decreased (unless you're talking about spinning). While I stand at my desk, I frequently find myself pacing, jogging in place, stretching, etc. I don't have to first GET UP OUT OF A CHAIR .
Tried jogging in place when reading this. Desk would shake if I tried to use it and couldn't control peripherals. Even reading content was hard.
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Humans are nothing like chimpanzees physiologically. Homo sapiens has a semi-aquatic mammal build.
The aquatic ape hypothesis is pseudoscience. Humans are adapted for long distance running and throwing.
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That essentially reads to me as "you can't both be focused on computer work and be active enough to be healthy" Break my concentration EVERY 20-30 minutes to move around for at least 2 minutes? That's at least halving my productivity. It's a total non-starter. It's the sort of advice that everyone pays lip service to, but almost no one is actually able to follow.
That is the optimum frequency — if you just wanna reap in the health benefits it could look like: 0 min: start working 10 min: refactored a few things, get a glas of water, look out of the window 40 min: started working on a particular though problem, somewhat stuck, get up and stretch a little while thinking 60 min: found a good solution to though problem, keep it in your head, goto kitchen get another glas of water…
And drinking more coffee helps a lot. You have to get up to make the coffee, then to pee it out. The caffiene in sufficuent quantity makes it hard to sit still. You talk faster so people think you're more productive too.
The whole thing is bad. We're chimpanzees chained to desks and they're trying to figure out if it's the chair that's killing us.
Humans are nothing like chimpanzees physiologically. Homo sapiens has a semi-aquatic mammal build.
Looks at chimp. Looks at whale. Looks at dolphin. Looks at human.
Scratches head like a confused ape.
The fundamental conflict is one of movement vs. focus (and health vs. career sadly), and we have found a way to introduce significant posture changes while doing work. https://www.movably.com/
We, also unlike basically every other chair company sadly, also put this to an independent research group. Our protocol was a simple sit-stand transition every 3 minutes, and the seems to be the first study to show a chair preventing pain without interrupting productivity. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00036...
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I remember reading something that your baseline consumption when standing is 140 calories/h vs 120 when seating. Definitely too marginal to have any sort of impact on obesity.
If those numbers are accurate then it would equate to a difference of about 2lb (1kg) of fat per year. That's a pretty typical rate of weight gain for many adults.
Here's an article [1] from a few years ago from Cornell ergonomics researchers that is still relevant the discusses the pluses and minuses of both sitting and standing desks. Here is their recommendation: > Sit to do computer work. Sit using a height-adjustable, downward titling keyboard tray for the best work posture, then every 20 minutes stand for 8 minutes AND MOVE for 2 minutes. The absolute time isn’t critical…
Most relevant study I have found is that sitting harm (average sedentary bout lenght & all cause mortality) actually begins at ~10-11m, and increases from that point. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28892811/
"A marked increase in mortality risk was observed at ~10 min/bout; suggestive of a threshold effect."
'The best posture is the next posture,' as they say.
If we’re not supposed to sit more than 10 hours a day, and not supposed to stand more than 2 hours then how are we supposed to spend the other 4 hours when we’re not sleeping? I can’t imagine being on a treadmill or exercise bike for than length of time
Humans are probably meant to hunt, forage, or socialize for most of the day.