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Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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Perhaps we should transition to in-office swimming pools with floating desks

Comedy Central landed on that solution six years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwQRXSvgm5o

It's all about the toaster floating in the pool.

Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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On the bright side, my standing desk is great as an adjustable desk. It's nice to be able to get the height just right.

I have a bad tailbone/lower back and the ability to rotate between sitting, reclining, and standing is important or I can't work.

Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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Study argues that movement is better than a static position (standing or sitting). Shocker. What they're obviously missing is that when you're at a standing desk, the friction to engaging in some kind of movement is drastically decreased (unless you're talking about spinning). While I stand at my desk, I frequently find myself pacing, jogging in place, stretching, etc. I don't have to first GET UP OUT OF A CHAIR .

They're not missing anything. Read the article instead of just the comments and you'll realize that all of this has been taken into account in the final results.

Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comedy Central landed on that solution six years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwQRXSvgm5o

It's all about the toaster floating in the pool.

The Floaster (TM) - New!... from Blammo!

Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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Well if we look at it as "standing all day" vs "sitting all day" maybe yeah doesn't make much difference.

So having an option to switch position between sitting and standing during the day, like work standing for an hour then work sitting for next one is definetly still better than one or the other.

Also while I work standing I do see I move much more like moving weight from one side to the other where while sitting I can just stay in one position for much longer.

Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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That essentially reads to me as "you can't both be focused on computer work and be active enough to be healthy" Break my concentration EVERY 20-30 minutes to move around for at least 2 minutes? That's at least halving my productivity. It's a total non-starter. It's the sort of advice that everyone pays lip service to, but almost no one is actually able to follow.

> Break my concentration EVERY 20-30 minutes to move around for at least 2 minutes? It will be a break just because it needs a conscious effort. But presumably if you build a routine, a habit, it will work by itself. You will be able to continue thinking your deep thoughts, while your body will transpose itself to a treadmill, do some movements there and then transpose itself back. The tricky part is how to build an…

Maybe an automatic height adjustable table could work?

Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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The standing desk solved by back pain issues. This is something the study didn't look into. They looked only for cardiovascular diseases. The ladder once are probably mainly caused by nutrition and sitting or standing won't do much difference.

P.S.: Walking Desks are even better.

Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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Here's an article [1] from a few years ago from Cornell ergonomics researchers that is still relevant the discusses the pluses and minuses of both sitting and standing desks. Here is their recommendation: > Sit to do computer work. Sit using a height-adjustable, downward titling keyboard tray for the best work posture, then every 20 minutes stand for 8 minutes AND MOVE for 2 minutes. The absolute time isn’t critical…

That essentially reads to me as "you can't both be focused on computer work and be active enough to be healthy" Break my concentration EVERY 20-30 minutes to move around for at least 2 minutes? That's at least halving my productivity. It's a total non-starter. It's the sort of advice that everyone pays lip service to, but almost no one is actually able to follow.

Other comments & suggestions aside - remember that the majority of humans employed to sit and work on computers are not programmers.

Re: Standing desk might be as bad as sitting all day

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I have worked as dev since age of 18, I am now 42. Never had any health problems. I do some irregular sports but not very much. I don’t pay much attention to ergonomics, I just simply change my sitting position often and also take short walks. I do use standing desk sometimes but not for whole day, just for short periods.

Congratulations, you're a sensible human being who has figured out that listening to your body and intuition works much better than all these "optimal" solutions everyone is chasing after. I've suspected for a long time that much of ergonomics is just snake oil and hardly based on any evidence at all. If sitting upright or in some specific allegedly ergonomic position is making me feel tense and wears me out, how is that helpful? I prefer to go with what millions of years of evolution have coded in me. Fortunately I don't have a desk job anymore so it's not of much concern to me.
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