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Re: Linux Asceticism

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Post by exitb »

sevensor wrote: post #2

It’s funny, I feel quite the opposite. Using windows is a form of asceticism, and Linux is the easy way. Everything just works under Linux, but under Windows, things go wrong for no apparent reason, the system installs updates and reboots without me telling it to, there is massive network traffic that I didn’t initiate, none of my tools work properly, there are ads on the start menu, and software I know I installed i…

Maybe all forms of asceticism work that way - what’s initially a challenge, eventually brings comfort.

Re: Linux Asceticism

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Post by sph »

sevensor wrote: post #2

It’s funny, I feel quite the opposite. Using windows is a form of asceticism, and Linux is the easy way. Everything just works under Linux, but under Windows, things go wrong for no apparent reason, the system installs updates and reboots without me telling it to, there is massive network traffic that I didn’t initiate, none of my tools work properly, there are ads on the start menu, and software I know I installed i…

Using Windows when you're accustomed to Linux is masochism, which is not the opposite of asceticism. I had to install Windows recently, and for all the few hours I used it I had Marie Kondo's voice in my head saying this does not spark joy.

Re: Linux Asceticism

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Post by binkHN »

sph wrote: post #12
sevensor wrote: post #2

It’s funny, I feel quite the opposite. Using windows is a form of asceticism, and Linux is the easy way. Everything just works under Linux, but under Windows, things go wrong for no apparent reason, the system installs updates and reboots without me telling it to, there is massive network traffic that I didn’t initiate, none of my tools work properly, there are ads on the start menu, and software I know I installed i…

Using Windows when you're accustomed to Linux is masochism, which is not the opposite of asceticism. I had to install Windows recently, and for all the few hours I used it I had Marie Kondo's voice in my head saying this does not spark joy.

Masochism is related to gratification and pleasure; you get none of this with Windows.

Re: Linux Asceticism

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

binkHN wrote: post #13
sph wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using Windows when you're accustomed to Linux is masochism, which is not the opposite of asceticism. I had to install Windows recently, and for all the few hours I used it I had Marie Kondo's voice in my head saying this does not spark joy.

Masochism is related to gratification and pleasure; you get none of this with Windows.

Self-flaggelation? Although I get the idea that's also a kind of self-gratification, martyrdom, whichever.

Re: Linux Asceticism

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Post by sph »

binkHN wrote: post #13
sph wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using Windows when you're accustomed to Linux is masochism, which is not the opposite of asceticism. I had to install Windows recently, and for all the few hours I used it I had Marie Kondo's voice in my head saying this does not spark joy.

Masochism is related to gratification and pleasure; you get none of this with Windows.

Fair enough. Joy returned when I was done and I ran `blkdiscard` to nuke the entire SSD I installed it in. Excised in one fell swoop.

Re: Linux Asceticism

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Post by yathaid »

As a software engineer, this post resonates with me.

But, you can find this attitude pervading the whole linux desktop ecosystem. This post may as well be titled "Why it will never be the year of the Linux Desktop".

Re: Linux Asceticism

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Post by diego_sandoval »

sevensor wrote: post #2

It’s funny, I feel quite the opposite. Using windows is a form of asceticism, and Linux is the easy way. Everything just works under Linux, but under Windows, things go wrong for no apparent reason, the system installs updates and reboots without me telling it to, there is massive network traffic that I didn’t initiate, none of my tools work properly, there are ads on the start menu, and software I know I installed i…

Using Windows is unnecessary suffering. You suffer only because someone decided that you should suffer.

Using Linux, you suffer for better reasons that may even be worth it in some cases.

Re: Linux Asceticism

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Post by acomjean »

I don’t know. I’ve bought a few machines with popos. They’ve been so few issues, that I haven’t learned that much new about administering them.

I’ll install stuff from the command line but generally stick to the gui tools. And they work.

I’m able to do my programming tasks with minimal issues.

Re: Linux Asceticism

#20

Post by bee_rider »

I dunno, maybe…

I do think, though, he’s drawing a slightly artificial line between self-improvement, personal control, and practical concerns. If you haven’t “self improved” to the point where you know how your system works, can you actually control it? If you don’t know how to tell your system to do things, does it gain much practical value?

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