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Re: Using Two ReMarkables

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I just returned my ReMarkable Pro. I found that split screen was something I wanted and though I had a work around with using my iPad much like Op here, it wasn't ideal.

The big nail in the coffin for me was difficulty integrating into my workflow / application stack. I had to use a couple scripts I hacked together to get the data from ReMarkable into the tools I use regularly. For the cost Invested I decided it was just too much.

The tech wasn't bad, I was impressed with the build quality, and I think there is a market, without a Jailbreak / easy integration it's just not for me at this time. Bummer.

Re: Using Two ReMarkables

#12

How different does it feel to take notes on Rm2 compared to pen and paper? Can you be equally effective on taking handwritten notes on Rm2?

It's different but gives a similarly nice feel. The surface is a little rough which makes it give a feeling not too dissimilar to that of a chalk board albeit without the chalk. Not sure if that makes sense, but is definitely worth trying if you're curious.

Re: Using Two ReMarkables

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post #3

The people yearn for the Microsoft Courier [0]. [0]: https://youtu.be/UmIgNfp-MdI

Agreed. I'm still letting the Lenovo Yoga 9i bake another generation or so and then I'm jumping in. Booklet PC! Finally!! There is an Acer product but it does not fold down flat like the lenovo model does.

Re: Using Two ReMarkables

#14

I just returned my ReMarkable Pro. I found that split screen was something I wanted and though I had a work around with using my iPad much like Op here, it wasn't ideal. The big nail in the coffin for me was difficulty integrating into my workflow / application stack. I had to use a couple scripts I hacked together to get the data from ReMarkable into the tools I use regularly. For the cost Invested I decided it was…

My Boox e-ink tablet has a split screen mode that I use regularly, but I wouldn’t use it on full page (A4/US letter) sized pdfs like journal articles as the text would be too small.

Re: Using Two ReMarkables

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I just returned my ReMarkable Pro. I found that split screen was something I wanted and though I had a work around with using my iPad much like Op here, it wasn't ideal. The big nail in the coffin for me was difficulty integrating into my workflow / application stack. I had to use a couple scripts I hacked together to get the data from ReMarkable into the tools I use regularly. For the cost Invested I decided it was…

What was your intended use for the split screen? It sounds like you wanted a tablet with an e-ink screen, which the Remarkable is ostensibly not.

I bought my R2 originally with the same mindset, of jailbreaking it to run custom apps, but ended up loving it for what it is: the best and most expensive reading and note-taking device in our era :)

Re: Using Two ReMarkables

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post #4

It’s worth mentioning that, in Star Trek’s universe, tables were routinely covered in PADDs - not because it’s excessive, but that even with eink the most usable environment was multiple virtual sheets of paper at once.

Why is it then that this concept only appears in Trek from before 2005 or so? The modern series barely show PADDs at all. No one uses them like this, and most things are holographic.

This is not in any way a commentary on technology or ergonomics. This is 100% an artifact of the show being produced in a time where multiple physical pages on a desk is the only way people knew to operate. It was the only option at the time, so they just used that same concept with a different prop. We didn't have multitasking supercomputers in our pockets when TNG was produced, we had physical books that had to be spread out on a physical surface.

Trek is not a prediction of the future, it's just a TV show.

Re: Using Two ReMarkables

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I just returned my ReMarkable Pro. I found that split screen was something I wanted and though I had a work around with using my iPad much like Op here, it wasn't ideal. The big nail in the coffin for me was difficulty integrating into my workflow / application stack. I had to use a couple scripts I hacked together to get the data from ReMarkable into the tools I use regularly. For the cost Invested I decided it was…

You can enable developer mode and remote into the device. There are several API frameworks for building extensions. This has been one of the better experiences with hardware (RMP) I’ve ever had. What else are you looking for in a “jailbreak?”

Re: Using Two ReMarkables

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post #6

I'm a heavy ReMarkable user, mostly as a note taking device when doing client meetings. For personal use I use it a lot for annotating philosophy papers and source materials, and the lack of a split screen feature is extremely frustrating. Writing annotations or commentaries on texts means writing in the margins or switching back and forth between books (often a paper book and the remarkable for writing, or 2 noteboo…

I find mine close to useless. The pen is sometimes really inconsistent, to the point where the ink gets applied 1mm from the pen tip. Also, no canvas for pdf annotation, no split screen, no search in pdfs and notes, only tags, etc. It's strictly worse than paper for me.

Re: Using Two ReMarkables

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How different does it feel to take notes on Rm2 compared to pen and paper? Can you be equally effective on taking handwritten notes on Rm2?

It's definitely a different feel, but not bad. It feels like using a particularly smooth ballpoint on some nice heavyweight stationery. I don't find it particularly noticeable or distracting, but I also don't do much handwriting anymore. It has a pleasant amount of drag and has a very slight squishy feel, like if you're writing on a stack of two or three sheets.

My problem is that I apparently apply quite a lot of pressure when writing and the nib in the stylus wears out after a few dozen hours. Some people talk about using titanium nibs, but I'd rather burn through nibs than tear up the irreplaceable screen.

The handfeel is fantastic. It really is a wonderfully designed object.

However, the writing experience is not great. The digitizer is quite simply bad. RM knows about it and seemingly don't care. The digitizer develops random calibration problems and it becomes impossible to accurately put your pen on any specific spot. You absolutely cannot ever continue a stroke after you've lifted the pen. There is no way to recalibrate. The working theory is stray magnetization inside the digitizer, some people claim that dragging a magnet over the screen helps. It also has some nasty quantization issues. Pen strokes are not vectorised and come out inexplicably jagged and aliased.

If you are the type of person who can write quickly with very few mistakes, and without constantly looking at the page, you'd probably get good use out of the RM2. For me, I am abysmal at writing like this and the RM just gets in my way.

I do use my RM a fair bit, but for my use case, it's far less convenient than a paper notebook. I'm mostly taking research notes and diagramming things. I don't markup PDFs or take longhand meeting notes or anything.

Also, having been involved in the RM modding community, I feel pretty gross about ReMarkable the company. The originally billed this as an open, hackable linux device you can run custom software on. They almost immediately backtracked on this and removed the SDK from their website. Someone in the community has to go and individually email RM developers for a new copy of the SDK after each update. Plus the files that store your notes are in a proprietary format. The only way to get them out is to convert to a PDF on the tablet.

Generally I recommend you pass on the RM unless you know what you're in for. It's a beautiful device with horrible software and support.

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