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Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Re: Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Post by zxilly »

diggan wrote: post #25
_gotb wrote: post #19

Never use public trackers (unless you're downloading Linux ISOs of course).

> Never use public trackers ... if you live in a country where the police don't have better things to do. There are plenty of countries where literally nothing happen no matter how much you download/upload, even when using public trackers. Police there tend to focus on people do the initial uploading, if anything.

Mostly the police don't care about this, it's the owners of the copyrights who care , they might send an email to your ISP and then you'll have to pay.

Re: Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Post by diggan »

tuna74 wrote: post #28
diggan wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> sometimes I literally can’t pay to watch it. Yup. Top 2 reasons I became a pirate again after not being a pirate since maybe 15 years ago: #1 I literally couldn't give someone money to watch/listen to what I wanted #2 I was paying someone money to watch/listen to something and then they removed it Even popular things like Saturday Night Live are still impossible to acquire legally in my country. Edit: Forgot anothe…

"Forgot another point that became very annoying, the show is available but not with the subtitles I want and/or need. For example, watching a Swedish TV show on Spanish Netflix doesn't let me have English subtitles for example. But if I use Swedish Netflix, it would work, but technically breaking Netflix's ToS. Content rights have completely fucked up the user experience." I think you can set which subs (and audio tr…

> I think you can set which subs (and audio tracks) should be available in you Netflix profile. I can get chinese voice and subs for a lot of stuff in Sweden.

It's a geo-content restriction of some sorts. I'm guessing some of the subtitles Netflix is leasing/renting/whatever, they only lease for specific regions.

I'm 100% sure I've watched shows in the past on Netflix where if I use a VPN to set my location to Sweden, I could get English or Swedish subtitles, but if I use it without VPN (so Spanish location), it would refuse to allow me the English subtitles and instead allows Spanish or Swedish subtitles.

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable knows exactly why that is.

Re: Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Post by wolrah »

js2 wrote: post #11
diggan wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> sometimes I literally can’t pay to watch it. Yup. Top 2 reasons I became a pirate again after not being a pirate since maybe 15 years ago: #1 I literally couldn't give someone money to watch/listen to what I wanted #2 I was paying someone money to watch/listen to something and then they removed it Even popular things like Saturday Night Live are still impossible to acquire legally in my country. Edit: Forgot anothe…

I sometimes pay for things and then pirate them anyway because I can adjust the subtitle position on the pirated version. Or I can rely on being able to play them offline. Or a dozen other reasons where the pirated version offers a better UX.

> I sometimes pay for things and then pirate them anyway because I can adjust the subtitle position on the pirated version. Or I can rely on being able to play them offline. Or a dozen other reasons where the pirated version offers a better UX.

I've been doing this for years. I have a stack of Blu-Ray discs I've never opened because I send a request to my home server while I'm in line to check out at the store and by the time I get home the exact same content on the disc I just purchased has already landed there exactly as if I had ripped it myself.

As you note, every element of the user experience is better with the pirated copy and absolutely nothing is worse, even for those who legitimately own it. The only way you compete with free is by being better than the free offering, and the home video industry just refuses to acknowledge that reality.

Re: Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Post by aniforprez »

tuna74 wrote: post #28
diggan wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> sometimes I literally can’t pay to watch it. Yup. Top 2 reasons I became a pirate again after not being a pirate since maybe 15 years ago: #1 I literally couldn't give someone money to watch/listen to what I wanted #2 I was paying someone money to watch/listen to something and then they removed it Even popular things like Saturday Night Live are still impossible to acquire legally in my country. Edit: Forgot anothe…

"Forgot another point that became very annoying, the show is available but not with the subtitles I want and/or need. For example, watching a Swedish TV show on Spanish Netflix doesn't let me have English subtitles for example. But if I use Swedish Netflix, it would work, but technically breaking Netflix's ToS. Content rights have completely fucked up the user experience." I think you can set which subs (and audio tr…

Last I checked, a lot of the time this is entirely dependent on region. For eg. the Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex series on Netflix exclusively has English dubbing and English subtitles everywhere but Japan but changing these settings did not make the Japanese audio available anywhere else that I was able to find out. It's also very annoying that sometimes the only subtitles available are closed captions when I really only want dialog subtitles. It's a real pain that all dialog and subtitle options aren't available out of the gate for everything.

Re: Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Post by diggan »

zxilly wrote: post #31
diggan wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Never use public trackers ... if you live in a country where the police don't have better things to do. There are plenty of countries where literally nothing happen no matter how much you download/upload, even when using public trackers. Police there tend to focus on people do the initial uploading, if anything.

Mostly the police don't care about this, it's the owners of the copyrights who care , they might send an email to your ISP and then you'll have to pay.

> they might send an email to your ISP and then you'll have to pay

I've probably downloaded/uploaded 10s of TBs at this point, in the two European countries I lived in since like two decades ago, and never received a single letter or had to pay anything. I'm sure there are more countries like these two.

Re: Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Post by meowster »

deaddodo wrote: post #29
thisislife2 wrote: post #3

I think this article is jumping the gun ... Give it time ... I hadn't even heard of this show, and so obviously wasn't even looking for it ... And if it is in Swedish, I'll also have to wait for the complete English subtitles before I can watch it. (And personally, I've found that pirated TV shows / movies that are not English are, in general, difficult to find online).

I literally found it in two seconds on one of the most popular non-legit streaming sites. Checked two others, and it's there as well. The article author has no idea what they're talking about.

I may be ignorant, but streaming is not the same as torrenting, and The Pirate Bay is known for the latter.

Re: Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Post by colecut »

meowster wrote: post #36
deaddodo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally found it in two seconds on one of the most popular non-legit streaming sites. Checked two others, and it's there as well. The article author has no idea what they're talking about.

I may be ignorant, but streaming is not the same as torrenting, and The Pirate Bay is known for the latter.

you can couple a torrent service with something like put.io and now it's a streaming service =p

Re: Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult

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Post by freedomben »

karaterobot wrote: post #21
rightbyte wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big bullet point for me is that I find it unethical to support most of the studios and media companies.

As someone who pirates a lot of movies and TV, I think it's hard to justify based on ethical arguments against the industry. At a certain point, it feels like a wobbly justification to say we like using something but refuse to pay for it, and that's actually fighting the good fight. Personally, I don't like some of what these companies do, but I like other parts—like the movies and shows their dark malevolence provid…

I would naturally tend to agree with you, and when it comes to DRM-free things (like most music) I totally agree, but I genuinely think financially supporting companies using DRM is unethical. I used to buy (and still would buy) a ton of ebooks and a fair amount of movies/shows, but at this point I refuse to. The only exception is Audible. I still buy a ton of audiobooks from Audible (unless I can find them on Downpour or another DRM-free site) because I think they've gotten to a reasonably happy medium on the DRM. I would rather they drop the DRM, but it's at least not a giant pain in the ass to strip for people like me who really care about that.

I strongly want to pay people for good content, and I think they deserve to make some money for their work, but as soon as they slap DRM on it to limit my ability to back it up, consume it on whatever device I want, etc, the scales are tipped and I think piracy is actually more ethical than supporting such shit financially.

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