We already have AIDE, Continue, Cody , Aider, Cursor.. Why this?
A tool like this is probably a great way to get some VC money.
Launch HN: Codebuff (YC F24) – CLI tool that writes code for you
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Re: Launch HN: Codebuff (YC F24) – CLI tool that writes code for you
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Absolutely! Imaging setting a bunch of css styles through a long winded AI conversation, when you could have an IDE to do it in a few seconds. I don't need that. The long tail of niche engineering problems is the time consuming bit now. That's not being solved at all, IMHO.
Which IDE do you use for CSS editing/adjustment?
I mostly mean the text editing functionality I guess. Visual Studio Code is the IDE I use
Re: Launch HN: Codebuff (YC F24) – CLI tool that writes code for you
#213"...in a Hail Mary attempt"
I'm curious how often others have experienced this. There have been so many times on many different projects where I've struggled with something hard and had the breakthrough only right before the deadline (self-imposed or actual deadline).
Congrats, sounds like an awesome project. I'll have to try it out.
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Interesting! Being in the same product space for more than 3 months, I wonder how one can not come across 2 popular open source tools that do more or less the same thing. Like Aider has 21k stars, and Cline has around 11k stars. Both these product names come up on HN, Reddit frequently. Curious to know if YC does some research on existing products before backing a new business.
This was surprising to me too. I've also built a similar free and open-source tool gptme (2.5k stars), since the start of last year (GPT-3.5). It has been impossible to ignore the great work done by Aider.
Yup. I recall that at some point maybe a year ago, pretty much every other LLM thread that had people speculating whether some LLM could do X or Y / improved or worsened for Z / etc., would have Paul show up and comment something along the lines, "Actually, I've benchmarked this thoroughly in my work on Aider; here's " or such. Those were usually some of the most insightful comments in the whole thread.
I found those comments, and the work they linked to, especially valuable because it's rare to see advanced work on LLM applications done and talked about in the open. Everyone else doing equivalent work seems to want to make a startup out of it, so all we usually get is weekend hacks that stall out quickly.
Re: Launch HN: Codebuff (YC F24) – CLI tool that writes code for you
#216Your website has a serious issue. Trying to play the YouTube video makes the page slow down to a crawl, even in 1080p, while playing it on YouTube directly has no issue, even in 4K. On the project itself, I don't really find it exciting at all, I'm sorry. It's just another wrapper for a 3rd party model, and the fact that you can 1) describe the entire workflow in 3 paragraphs, and 2) built it and launched it in aroun…
> I'm sorry. It's just another wrapper for a 3rd party model
For trivial tasks, this is certainly easy. For complicated tasks, like understanding a codebase or a product catalog of tens of thousands of entries, this is non-trivial.
My team is not working in the code gen space, but even though we also "just wrap" an API, almost all of our work is in data acquisition, transformation, the retrieval strategy, and structuring of the request context.
The API call to the LLM is like hitting "bake" on an oven: all of the real work happens before that.
Re: Launch HN: Codebuff (YC F24) – CLI tool that writes code for you
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Thanks for your reply! I started Codebuff without being aware of Aider. I actually have not yet tried Aider (though I plan to try it soon!). It's totally true that a lot of the development of Codebuff is merely me (and Brandon) working through a lot of the problems that Aider already solved! That makes sense. Partly, my thesis is that if you start after Sonnet 3.5 is out, that you design things differently. For examp…
Interesting! Being in the same product space for more than 3 months, I wonder how one can not come across 2 popular open source tools that do more or less the same thing. Like Aider has 21k stars, and Cline has around 11k stars. Both these product names come up on HN, Reddit frequently. Curious to know if YC does some research on existing products before backing a new business.
In any YC application, they request a list of competitors and why your product is better! Curious about what OP listed as competitors in the application.
Re: Launch HN: Codebuff (YC F24) – CLI tool that writes code for you
#218Sounds pretty interesting, I was thinking that would be the way to work past limited context window sizes automatically. > Codebuff has limited free usage, but if you like it you can pay $99/mo to get more credits... > One user racked up a $500 bill... Those two statements are kind of confusing together. Past the free tier, what does $99/month get you? It sounds like there's some sort of credit, but that's not discus…
Ah, good catch. We (read: I) introduced a bug that gave customers $500 worth of credits in a month as opposed to the $100 they paid for, and this user saw that and took advantage. Needless to say, we fixed the issue and added more copy to show to users when they _do_ exceed their thresholds. We haven't had that issue since. And of course, we ate the cost because it was our (expensive!) mistake. The user had spent the…
> The user had spent the entire weekend developing the app, and admitted that he would have been more careful to manage his Codebuff usage had it not been for this bug.
On the flip side, there's probably useful things to learn from how he developed his app when he didn't feel the need to be careful; in a way, your $500 mistake bought you useful test data.
In my own use of Aider, I noticed I'm always worried about the costs and pay close attention to token/cost summaries it displays. Being always on my mind, this affects my use of this tool in ways I'm only beginning to uncover. Same would likely be true for Codebuff users.
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Your comment is a bit suspicious given that your previous submissions are limited to manifold market links, and this tool came from that company.
Yes, he's the lead Manifold eng. Please discount appropriately.
Really uncool. You guys are getting a pretty positive reception here, this deceptive behavior shouldn’t have happened
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#220The demos I see for these types of tools are always some toy project and doesn't reflect day to day work I do at all. Do you have any example PRs on larger more complex projects that have been written with codebuff and how much of that was human interactive? The real problem I want someone to solve is helping me with the real niche/challenging portion of a PR, ex: new tiptap extension that can do notebook code eval,…
Watching the demo it seems like it would be more effective to learn the skills you need rather than using this for a decade.
It takes 5+ seconds just to change one field to dark mode, I don't even want to imaigne a situation where I have two fields and I want to explain that I need to change this field and not that field.
I'm not sure who is the target audience for this, people who want to be programmers without learning programming ?