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Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by thinkharderdev »

the_optimist wrote: post #96

Leading off the article with Yglesias shows the guy has little idea what he’s proposing to discuss. Imports can reduce GDP because the import is imported and not domestically produced. The formula identifies specifically: that which is consumed domestically but not produced domestically is not part of domestic production. There is no inconsistency here at all with revised trade policy increasing GDP. It should be tot…

Yglesias is just repeating arguments that have been mode over and over by people who do in fact know what they are talking about (Noah Smith makes the argument well here https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/imports-do-not-subtract-from-g...)

The moon base example I think makes the argument very clearly. If you have an economy which produces nothing then it has a GDP of 0. If the increase imports for whatever reason, their GDP is still 0, which means that imports doesn't subtract from GDP, otherwise their GDP would be negative which is nonsensical.

But all this is sort of beside the point because arguments from accounting identities are almost always nonsense.

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by TeaBrain »

linotype wrote: post #118
TeaBrain wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually was of the impression that David Friedberg got a decent amount of speaking time in the last few episodes, especially in that recent one that he moderated, which I enjoyed since he's the most level headed, least partisan and most evidence based as you said of the bunch.

Even he’s on the Trump train now.

He mentioned on the livestream yesterday that he didn't vote for either and just wrote in a name.

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by briantakita »

coolspot wrote: post #105
FigurativeVoid wrote: post #67

When the pandemic started, I really enjoyed the podcast. They seemed to have some good insights, and I found them funny. It was a vibe that I sorely missed being home alone. If one them sees this, I hope they take it kindly. The podcast has gone downhill drastically. The level of discourse has dropped considerably. They make all sorts of claims with very little evidence. Recently they have all agreed that voter ID la…

Voter ID laws do, in fact, just make sense.

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Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by sailfast »

It's probably best not to trust _any_ podcast until you do a bit of investigation. That way you won't run into the "learning not to trust" problem and you can write a "why I trust the X podcast" article.

That said - this was a great breakdown - thanks to the author!

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by briantakita »

I have news for you. Don't trust anyone with data. Mistakes are made. Biases are confirmed. Reproducibility & criteria for falsifiability are not proven. Unknown unknowns exist. There are different ways of categorizing & counting things. Abstraction is a lie (the map is not the territory).

There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off by one errors...

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by boringg »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #81
ks2048 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could image a gradual shift to something like that. But if 15 million workers can't work suddenly, there aren't people to do those jobs. Those people also buy groceries, pay rent, etc.

Ya, but being more honest about immigration is better in the long term. Well, I say that, but that's what Canada did and people (not just conservatives) are still angry. Instead of blaming illegal immigrants, however, they just blame legal ones.

I think Canada had a poorly determined policy which the country couldn't handle the incredible surge of immigrants - especially those who came from south asia through the diploma mill college route and added limited value to the country. Also in Canada the more people come the worse the socialized services if it isn't properly managed (which it hasn't been).

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by throwaway4736 »

cryptozeus wrote: post #94
llamaimperative wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's actually a bad idea to expose your brain to pathologically dishonest people.

They make mistake and they also come out and apologize or call it out when they are wrong. No one is 100% correct all the time. You have never made mistake or said something wrong when having discussion with your friends ? They are not running this as a educational channel , its a podcast where 4 friends chit chat.

Ha. Imagine believing this. Yeah, please let me know when Chamath corrects the record on the topic in question.

These guys are charlatans. These lying idiots have absolutely no shame in misleading you, and you are falling for it.

“Oh, it’s just entertainment. Oh, it’s just opinion. Oh, you shouldn’t take them seriously.”

No. Absolutely not. I refuse to give them a pass. We have to stop normalizing this behavior. Ethics matter. Character matters. The truth matters.

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by miltonlost »

mordymoop wrote: post #64
tailspin2019 wrote: post #34

All-In is one of the few podcasts I listen to where I don’t exactly like the hosts and disagree with a high percentage of what they say. But I find them interesting, and their recent shilling for Trump gave me a bit more of a nuanced insight into what they see as Trump’s strengths. I take everything they say with a huge grain of salt. It is incredible how confidently they talk about certain topics where it’s clear ev…

They make me feel like becoming super rich is achievable — even they could do it!

It is! Just let yourself be evil and get your MBA
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