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The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56

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Could some of this have to do with the post-WW2 rise in births peaking around 1959? That means we are now near a peak of people reaching retirement age, which often leads to them selling their current house and buying a house more suitable to retirement.

That increase in people around 65 buying retirement houses could pull up the average homebuyer age.

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#112

I do financial coaching as a side business and I can tell you the main two reason why most people in their 30s can't afford a home is because they have no idea how to budget and they carry too much debt spent on things they don't need. On average people spend about 30% of their income paying off non mortgage debts like credit cards, car loans, and student loans. I teach my clients how to budget, cut back on unnecessa…

You don’t have clients who are barristers/teachers/cooks etc in SF or NY. It is literally impossible to own even if you save 200% of your income.

I know software engineers in SF that don’t even consider trying to buy a house there. I also know generationally wealthy folks who rent from the same building I do in NYC. NYC and SF are major outliers in this discussion - in my experience, home ownership isn’t as much of an inherent end goal there as it is elsewhere in NA.

Re: The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56

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post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of never-purchased-home-before people have money but still don't buy a home. Why? What happens that causes people who have money and can pay to finally buy a home?

A lot of reasons! Some I have heard: - Homeownership comes with responsibilities that people may not want - They prefer to invest the money elsewhere - They expect to relocate on timeframes shorter than those that make homeownership a good investment

I'm asking, what causes people to buy a house for the first time?

For upper middle class people the answer is probably having a baby, so you can see why if people are having babies later in life when their incomes are higher, prices rise.

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#114

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Exactly: the billionaires aren't the problem here, it's the middle-class NIMBY homeowners who refuse to allow any new construction near them.

Middle-class NIMBY homeowners have literally zero meaningful input into zoning and permitting processes. At the absolute peak of their power they can show up to public hearings and whinge into a microphone for 3 minutes, an activity that planning boards and city councils around the country are perfectly happy to ignore.

If city councils and planning boards ignore them, they promptly get voted out of office. The NIMBYs are more reliable voters than anyone else.

Re: The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56

#115
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Well that’s what happens when you frame housing as an investment. If it didn’t outpace the market and the consumer inflation rate, it wouldn’t be a good investment. So by definition it must become unaffordable for the masses. No great way out of this mess.

Building lots of housing in higher demand areas would be a great way out of it.

Something like 2/3 of people in the US are homeowners, your idea of the masses are may not be entirely accurate.

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#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly: the billionaires aren't the problem here, it's the middle-class NIMBY homeowners who refuse to allow any new construction near them.

At what point do you just call that illegal cartel behavior?

When they've captured the local government, you don't.

Re: The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56

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post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you aware of the vast disparity of wealth among American families? On the order of 100k for white families, 10k for black families. Wealth being passed down family trees ensures immigrants and people who are worse off now will remain priced out. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/black-wealth-is-increasin...

Inheritance rarely survives past the third generation, it's not really part of the problem.

???? so what is?

Re: The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56

#118

I thought I would have a house in my 20s. Then I thought maybe by the time I was in my 30s. Now I’m in my 30s and I have no idea when I’ll buy a house, if ever.

Have you considered getting married? I may very well have been able to afford a house before I got married but the timing and the compromises that would have entailed always seemed to hold me back. Once I got married though there was both more money and a realization that some possibilities (you know I might just pick up sticks and move across the country) were less likely. Plus expanding our family was very possible…

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Re: The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56

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Depends on how hard you want it. I spent more than a decade between the start of the search for proper property and buy decision. I even managed to sign my mortgage agreement in last weeks of cheap money in eurozone. It’s a long game unless you have a case full of cash.

To a degree. But plenty of people want it real bad and there aren't enough days of avocado toast in a month that add up to a mortgage.

Saving a down payment in a single month would mean you have a pretty sizable income to start. I get what you’re saying, but if it’s a $10 avocado toast every day, then there are enough days in 3 years to save a $10k down payment for a starter home.

One of the unintuitive consequences of low interest rates/ZIRP is that the savings rate is abysmal. When I was a kid I remember my first savings account earned maybe 2 or 3% interest annually. Now you’re lucky to get half a percent. People are disincentivized from saving money and instead end up putting savings into investments, which are inherently risky.

Re: The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Middle-class NIMBY homeowners have literally zero meaningful input into zoning and permitting processes. At the absolute peak of their power they can show up to public hearings and whinge into a microphone for 3 minutes, an activity that planning boards and city councils around the country are perfectly happy to ignore.

If city councils and planning boards ignore them, they promptly get voted out of office. The NIMBYs are more reliable voters than anyone else.

That's a heartwarming narrative that bears no resemblance to observed reality. Frequently these positions are either totally uncontested or a straight party line vote by individuals who have literally no idea who or what they're voting for beyond party affiliation. What actually happens: council ignores the shit out of the noise coming from individuals that don't actually fund their campaigns, their affiliated party, or both. Entire projects are reframed as notionally beneficial to the community at large, citing some combination of bullshit claims about economic benefits and inclusivity, something something gentrification bad, etc, and the larger voting populace shrugs and goes on with their day oblivious. Worst case scenario a seat or two get sacrificed and the party apparatus advances another foot soldier to fill in the now vacated seat, with identical results.
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