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If you want easy Arch, there's EndevourOS. It's rolling instead of "stable" but in my experience Manjaro's actual stability is overrated, an update straight up trashed the bootloader once.
Glad I left for Debian + make/checkinstall. Manjaro is one of the messiest distros I’ve used.
Based on this thread, it seems like the initial idea was 'just enable it by default and let people disable it' but that quickly changed after the first objections came in. Whatever step the proposal is in right now seems to be focused on making a system to gather telemetry first, I can't see any definitive decision on opt-in vs opt-out (though opt-in through the installer/welcome screen seems to be the best solution…
Its simply illegal in many countries to make an opt-out. For such data comming from your OS you need an OPT-IN!
They and can should count users only by updates. Make a package that is required and only changed upon each release (containing for instance /etc/os-release) and count how many distinct IP addresses download it.
NAT would like to laugh at you
I think this might've been an easier sell if they kept it to general data and used it for the purpose they stated they wanted to originally - counting the number of users of manjaro - as the depth of information they send is unnecessary for that
> we need at least some data about how Manjaro is being used by so many people around the world in order to show that the project has a future and also to plan for that future.
Charitably, this implies they want to plan around things like infrastructure scaling. Why can't they just look at present demands on their infrastructure? (i.e. why bother with a proxy metric when you have the real metrics right there?)
> Until now what has been done, was counting systems via ping.manjaro.org 11. These pings are sent from Manjaro systems via the NetworkManager. I really hope that's not the default out of the box behaviour.