WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
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WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
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Re: WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
#2While some would make it sound as though Wikileaks was 'against' the US or any specific country, it seems clear to me that they are really just out to shine light on everyone that has secrets.
I, for one, don't see this as a terribly bad thing. Governments and large corporations are under the impression that they can do as they please and no one will ever know the wiser.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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#3Since these kinds of leaks are very difficult to authenticate, there is an opportunity for intelligence agencies to game WikiLeaks by (slightly) altering stolen documents.
I'd take everything in these documents with a huge grain of salt.
Re: WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
#4Since these kinds of leaks are very difficult to authenticate, there is an opportunity for intelligence agencies to game WikiLeaks by (slightly) altering stolen documents. I'd take everything in these documents with a huge grain of salt.
puts on tinfoil hat
There's always the chance that Wikileaks in total is just a cover operation for all sorts of other activity, plus giving the US and allies 'reason' to act in various ways. We don't have much of a way to know that any of the documents they've ever leaked were authentic. Bradley Manning could just be a fall-guy for false information.
takes off tinfoil hat
I doubt this is happening, but stranger things have happened. I'm sure the CIA has at least considered such...
Re: WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
#5Since these kinds of leaks are very difficult to authenticate, there is an opportunity for intelligence agencies to game WikiLeaks by (slightly) altering stolen documents. I'd take everything in these documents with a huge grain of salt.
Most of the mainstream media is unquestioning at best. The government doesn't need to manipulate WikiLeaks. The sort of people who are more inclined to listen to WikiLeaks over CNN or Fox News were already skeptical, so there's nothing to gain by feeding them false information.
Re: WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
#6A better link might have been
http://wikileaks.org/syria-files/
Re: WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
#7Just as interesting as the leaks themselves has been the pathological hatred traditional journos seem to have for Assange/WL or new press in general.
Re: WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
#8Since these kinds of leaks are very difficult to authenticate, there is an opportunity for intelligence agencies to game WikiLeaks by (slightly) altering stolen documents. I'd take everything in these documents with a huge grain of salt.
puts on tinfoil hat There's always the chance that Wikileaks in total is just a cover operation for all sorts of other activity, plus giving the US and allies 'reason' to act in various ways. We don't have much of a way to know that any of the documents they've ever leaked were authentic. Bradley Manning could just be a fall-guy for false information. takes off tinfoil hat I doubt this is happening, but stranger thin…
Bradley Manning could just be a fall-guy for false information.
I doubt this is happening, but stranger things have happened. I'm sure the CIA has at least considered such...
If you want to go all super-paranoid-conspiracy-whatever, we could speculate that all this Wikileaks stuff is total false-flag stuff, and that Bradley Manning was never arrested at all, and is actually vacationing in Bermuda somewhere right now, sitting on the beach, sipping little umbrella drinks while getting rubbed down with suntan oil by hotties in small bathing suits.
And the thing is... who knows, what I just said actually is vaguely plausible - depending on the extent to which you believe that governments do actually create conspiracies to manipulate public opinion, and otherwise do things which would be illegal.
On the one hand, I'm very skeptical. But then you look at history and read about the illegal LSD experiments[1] and COINTELPRO[2], etc., you start to wonder.
Re: WikiLeaks says it has obtained 2.4 million emails from Syria
#9While some would make it sound as though Wikileaks was 'against' the US or any specific country, it seems clear to me that they are really just out to shine light on everyone that has secrets. I, for one, don't see this as a terribly bad thing. Governments and large corporations are under the impression that they can do as they please and no one will ever know the wiser. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Despite our government's policies and rhetoric, the USA tends to trade with everybody - remember the Iran Contra affair? I'd imagine even if the leaks mostly incriminate Syria, our government may still be none too pleased to have the extent of our involvement with Assad revealed.
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#10始吾於人也，聽其言而信其行。今吾於人也，聽其言而觀其行。
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3063174
It certainly would be delightful to see a trove of internal documents from the current regime in China, with opportunity for the whole world to examine the inner workings of that regime. I daresay many current issues about effective development policy for third-world countries could be better understood if we all better understood what is going on in China behind the Great Firewall. That would surely be of benefit to the common people of China themselves. For that matter, we might better understand what is going on in Syria just now if we had full access to internal documents from the regime in China.