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Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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> Invalidate the election results and do a new one. The chaos that would ensue from this is staggering.

Much better to just deny it till after the new government is in, then make a nothing-burger out of all the news that is reported "afterwards"? Meanwhile, 50% of your country is disenfranchised for X-years because it was "less chaos" to just accept the vote and move on.

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Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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I really don’t want to burst your bubble… but do you not realize this is seen as a joke abroad? e.g. In Hanoi, American officials, diplomats, and executives are rushing to wine and dine people who literally celebrate the defeat of ‘American force’ in public, on the record, every year. They treat even a random third secretary for some party committee 100km from Hanoi much much better than the 90th percentile upper mid…

Hanoi? Are you refering to pulling out of Vietnam made the US seem like a joke? Or that the locals are wrong to celebrate that?

What exactly are you confused about? It seems pretty clearly spelled out.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Not bizarre at all. It's BS, but it's not bizarre. Politics has become trench warfare. Everything is a battle to the death to keep the other side from gaining an inch anywhere. And, as is often the case in warfare, truth is a casualty. Both sides will say absolutely anything to keep anyone from thinking that the other side has a valid point. It's advertising, but without any truth-in-advertising laws. Or, if you pref…

This is the kind of boring "both side-ism" that I just don't understand. I have no great love of either party, but one side is openly speculating about all sorts of things that cannot be described as anything other than outright authoritarian, and the other party ... is not. And no, some disagreements on free speech or the 2nd amendment or whatnot is not even close. And no, "oh, he's not really serious about it" does…

The issue in question was truth, not authoritarianism. Specifically, the issue was truth about election security. The point was that both sides will, and have, claim election fraud when they lose, and "most secure election in history" when they win.

More generally: In the current election, Harris isn't the firehose of lies that Trump is. She isn't a shining beacon of truth, either.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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The problem stated was that the marker machine lies 1 out of 15 entries. The paper would contain an incorrect selection occasionally. So, yeah, it would require no one noticing during the act.

Indeed, and the math is the same. If out of 3 million voters, just 1000 double-check the printout, they will detect a 1/100 flip with probability 99.996%.

And yet somebody who voted said far above in this thread that the machine reads a barcode on their ballot, so they have 0% chance of verifying if their vote was entered correctly. And there is always the added problem of a dieselgate style obfuscation: The machine counts votes differently when in verification mode than in actual vote counting mode.

My preferred machine would be one that did not use integrated circuits, but was simple enough that the entire board and circuit was visible - with no software beyond the circuitry at all. You just need a very simple sensor and tally wheels that mechanically advance, like those used for measuring wheels etc. No need for memory. Keep automation to the absolute bare minimum.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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But, there is still someone somewhere that distribute the certificats and can link you to your vote so why try to hide something that can leak. It will leak.

We have a major party candidate right now saying his political opponents should face a firing squad and you’re asking “why try to hide something that can leak?” https://x.com/atrupar/status/1852209432878342308

"Let's put her with a rifle..."

Since when do people facing firing squads get issued a rifle of their own? How do you explain this language he is using?

To me it's clear he meant "put her in combat facing a squad of adversaries" (US Army squads are 9 men, USMC are 13), essentially calling her a coward/chickenhawk.

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And we should dye the thumb of those that already voted.

I’m not sure what problem that solves that crossing voters of a list doesn’t already solve. What about mail in and early voting?

It’s a fun way to add flare to voting day.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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If there is a risk that a husband would beat his wife in this case and that she could not leave him, there is no way that any form of electronic vote would change her life, or even her childrens. People who protect this system will probably rig the votes to keep it or a similar one. I don't know any big change in the past, anywhere, like a big social progress, a regime change, a revolution or a coup that was enabled…

> If there is a risk that a husband would beat his wife in this case and that she could not leave him, there is no way that any form of electronic vote would change her life, or even her childrens. People who protect this system will probably rig the votes to keep it or a similar one. What? There are people in America who live under this threat today, and yes voting can actually change important parts of their lives.

> There are people in America who live under this threat today

Women under threat of their spouse beating them to death for voting "incorrectly"? Can you link to some examples of this? Like testimony of women who came forward fearing their spouses, not just in general terms but on this specific issue of voting?

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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> I believe there are people who want results sooner rather than later In Denmark all ballots are hand-counted. It takes about 6 hours from polls close to every precinct reporting a preliminary result. Wanting it faster isn't really necessary, other than to feed the 24/7 news machine.

Denmark has a smaller population than New York City, America is a very large place.

Right, so there are more people to count the vote

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Please correct me where I'm mistaken. * This password list has been public for a long time, and is easy to access: hidden excel column on a public spreadsheet. * BIOS access means the intruder can change boot devices, boot their own OS, infect the BIOS with a virus, change boot devices back, compromise the vote host OS. * Keycard security isn't tight security. Any amature physical penetration tester would just use a…

In texas you pick your items on computer and it spits out a paper ballot that you can look at to verify it's what you voted for. The info is also included in a qr code like form for a reader. In the event that something looks off it can be verified by humans. I figured something similar was done all over.

This is not the case everywhere in Texas. In many places, you fill in a paper ballot at a booth and feed it into a machine at the end with nothing printed afterwards.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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> Just like all the issues with illegals and the border wall, which they don't seem to want to fix and make it impossible. How do you reconcile that with: Senate Republicans block border security bill as they campaign on border chaos ( May 24, 2024 ) Nearly every GOP senator, along with six Democrats, voted to filibuster a bipartisan bill designed to crack down on migration and reduce border crossings. The vote caps…

As you are not an American, let me educate on what that bill did. Much like the "Inflation Reduction Act" which was a clean energy bill that had nothing to do with inflation, the bill did the exact opposite of what it claimed. - It funded billions of dollars for the NGOs which were aiding illegal immigration - It normalized and allowed historically high illegal levels of immigration (10x normal) - It removed the stan…

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