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Re: Boston Dynamics robot Atlas goes hands on [video]

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I think whenever I see humanoid robots like this: What is the battery life? I imagine this will be a critical limitation on these, until further notice.

The battery life of a human is 6-8 hours. Those pesky humans also want "rights". Takes a long time to make a new human too. So that's the competition.

I do not think you'll get anything close to that with these robots.

Re: Boston Dynamics robot Atlas goes hands on [video]

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Compare this to the human controlled puppets Tesla demonstrated. Tesla made a big show of something Disney could do years ago. While Boston Dynamics is quietly building the real thing and showing us footage of it actually working.

The difference is Disney doesn't have any factories. I'd bet good money Tesla has Optimus doing real work in their factories, at scale, long before anyone else.

> I'd bet good money Tesla has Optimus doing real work in their factories, at scale, long before anyone else.

On what do you base that?

Tesla is so far behind BD, who are behind the Chinese

My money is on the Chinese

Re: Boston Dynamics robot Atlas goes hands on [video]

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Boston Dynamics has been deploying Spot at scale for years now: https://bostondynamics.com/industry/manufacturing And it's one thing to have a cute demo showcased under ideal scenarios and another to have it deployed in mission critical environments around real people.

A mobile camera that can open doors is quite useful, but that's not on the same level as robot auto worker that could stamp out parts on a press.

This statement makes no sense.

We have had robots stamping parts for years. There is no need for a humanoid style configuration. Meanwhile what is needed and far more complex are robots that can interact with unpredictable people in unpredictable environments.

Boston Dynamics has already demonstrated they can do this.

Re: Boston Dynamics robot Atlas goes hands on [video]

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Impressive. The machine learning application in these domains is the real game changer. PS: Isn't that the Lord of the Lithium, the Guardian of the Tunnels has the robot prototypes that not only serve drinks but do the small talk with full self driving AGI already?

AGI - A Guy in India

Or Indonesia

Re: Boston Dynamics robot Atlas goes hands on [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A mobile camera that can open doors is quite useful, but that's not on the same level as robot auto worker that could stamp out parts on a press.

This statement makes no sense. We have had robots stamping parts for years. There is no need for a humanoid style configuration. Meanwhile what is needed and far more complex are robots that can interact with unpredictable people in unpredictable environments. Boston Dynamics has already demonstrated they can do this.

I'm not sure what part doesn't make sense. Can you clarify where you got confused?

Machine presses still have human operators somewhere, even though theres machines and robot arms involved. eg the end of that figure one video.

Sure, a dog sized object autonomously not running into objects, some of which can move is an achievement, but it's still just a remote control camera.

Re: Boston Dynamics robot Atlas goes hands on [video]

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I think whenever I see humanoid robots like this: What is the battery life? I imagine this will be a critical limitation on these, until further notice.

Yup, it's a real shame that batteries can't be swapped.

Swapping batteries is often suggested, but rarely actually used in practice due to a wide range of logistical issues like thermal management, cost, etc.

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Unitree is catching up to Boston Dynamics in locomotion, but has not surpassed them yet I think. Unitree's real advantage is the much lower cost of their hardware and their ability to mass produce their robots. But IMO manipulation is harder than locomotion, both in hardware and software, and neither company is convincingly ahead there. I think the uncut laundry demo from Physical Intelligence a few days ago is bette…

I don't really want a robot wandering around doing laundry. I think what most people want is a box you dump clothes in and they come out folded, an extra machine next to the dryer. That would be a genuine time saver. I hate scaling Mount Foldmore.

Well the robot is that machine....and much more.

Re: Boston Dynamics robot Atlas goes hands on [video]

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unitree is catching up to Boston Dynamics in locomotion, but has not surpassed them yet I think. Unitree's real advantage is the much lower cost of their hardware and their ability to mass produce their robots. But IMO manipulation is harder than locomotion, both in hardware and software, and neither company is convincingly ahead there. I think the uncut laundry demo from Physical Intelligence a few days ago is bette…

I don't really want a robot wandering around doing laundry. I think what most people want is a box you dump clothes in and they come out folded, an extra machine next to the dryer. That would be a genuine time saver. I hate scaling Mount Foldmore.

I don't want more machines taking up space in my home. I don't want a bunch of special purpose "smart" devices with buggy software and dedicated apps requiring logins and firmware updates to plug security holes. I want one robot that can do it all. I'd get rid of my security system, cameras, smart thermostat, dishwasher, clothes washer, stand mixer, toaster, etc etc.

Re: Boston Dynamics robot Atlas goes hands on [video]

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unitree is catching up to Boston Dynamics in locomotion, but has not surpassed them yet I think. Unitree's real advantage is the much lower cost of their hardware and their ability to mass produce their robots. But IMO manipulation is harder than locomotion, both in hardware and software, and neither company is convincingly ahead there. I think the uncut laundry demo from Physical Intelligence a few days ago is bette…

I don't really want a robot wandering around doing laundry. I think what most people want is a box you dump clothes in and they come out folded, an extra machine next to the dryer. That would be a genuine time saver. I hate scaling Mount Foldmore.

The horror!
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