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Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Post by Molitor5901 »

aftbit wrote: post #21

I hate the narratives around voting security in the US. One side says that it is totally secure, basically 0 fraud, most secure election in history, etc etc. The other side claims that the election was completely stolen from them by voting machines. Neither of these claims is right. Personally, I doubt the election was stolen. I know of a handful of cases of voter fraud both anecdotally ("My mom [in a retirement home…

Each side uses the argument most expedient to them at the time. For the 2020 election I recall it was concern over mail in ballots.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

brandonmenc wrote: post #29
aftbit wrote: post #21

I hate the narratives around voting security in the US. One side says that it is totally secure, basically 0 fraud, most secure election in history, etc etc. The other side claims that the election was completely stolen from them by voting machines. Neither of these claims is right. Personally, I doubt the election was stolen. I know of a handful of cases of voter fraud both anecdotally ("My mom [in a retirement home…

> One side says that it is totally secure, basically 0 fraud, most secure election in history Additionally, the sides have completely flipped. Utterly bizarre.

Not bizarre at all. It's BS, but it's not bizarre.

Politics has become trench warfare. Everything is a battle to the death to keep the other side from gaining an inch anywhere. And, as is often the case in warfare, truth is a casualty. Both sides will say absolutely anything to keep anyone from thinking that the other side has a valid point.

It's advertising, but without any truth-in-advertising laws. Or, if you prefer, it's propaganda. Any relationship to the truth is purely accidental.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Post by readthenotes1 »

laxmin wrote: post #6

The Indian Voting Machines are the answer. No operating system, no passwords, no connections, no bruteforcing anything, system on a chip, so widely distributed devices that hacking even a few of them is challenging, etc. The US voting machines are just waiting to be hacked, just a matter of when, not if.

It's a matter of when, if, and, if we will ever know

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Post by MichaelZuo »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #33
brandonmenc wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One side says that it is totally secure, basically 0 fraud, most secure election in history Additionally, the sides have completely flipped. Utterly bizarre.

Not bizarre at all. It's BS, but it's not bizarre. Politics has become trench warfare. Everything is a battle to the death to keep the other side from gaining an inch anywhere. And, as is often the case in warfare, truth is a casualty. Both sides will say absolutely anything to keep anyone from thinking that the other side has a valid point. It's advertising, but without any truth-in-advertising laws. Or, if you pref…

The true casualty is America’s credibility abroad. In pretty much every capital, embassy, boardroom, etc… it noticeably declines year on year.

Even the Brits don’t take anything at face value anymore.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Post by Sparkle-san »

rsync wrote: post #37

Paper ballots have very boring failure modes and need no explanation or technical support. When you see a system more complex than paper ballots, know that the additions are not there on your behalf .

Colorado uses paper ballots. It's an all-mail voting state so every voter is mailed a paper ballot which is then dropped off or mailed back.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Post by willcipriano »

brandonmenc wrote: post #29
aftbit wrote: post #21

I hate the narratives around voting security in the US. One side says that it is totally secure, basically 0 fraud, most secure election in history, etc etc. The other side claims that the election was completely stolen from them by voting machines. Neither of these claims is right. Personally, I doubt the election was stolen. I know of a handful of cases of voter fraud both anecdotally ("My mom [in a retirement home…

> One side says that it is totally secure, basically 0 fraud, most secure election in history Additionally, the sides have completely flipped. Utterly bizarre.

Notice the Cheneys and John Boltons of the world also have seemed to flipped with them.

Re: Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak

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Post by skeeter2020 »

wbl wrote: post #4
grugagag wrote: post #2

Is voting fraud at stake here or leak info over who voted? Is it possible to infer who voted what from the leak?

No, because of the way CO runs elections. But it is possible to gin up fraud claims and then resort to violence if the candidate who did this before loses again.

That just seems so unlikely. What sort of out-of-touch ego monster, bigger than Jesus, flaming asshole would do this?
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