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Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer in consumer computing

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Re: Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer in consumer computing

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What's crazy is that the M4 Pro is in the Mac mini, something so tiny can handle that chip. The Mac Studio with the M4 Max will be awesome but the Mini is remarkable.

I am still astounded the huge change moving from an Intel Mac to an Apple Silicon Mac (M1) has had in terms of battery performance and heat. I don't think i've heard the fans a single time I've had this machine and it's been several years.

Nor have I had any desire to upgrade.

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Good enough to be used for gaming? Really want Apple to get into that because dealing with Windows sucks.

They’ve always been good enough for gaming. The problem has just been whether or not publishers would bother releasing the games. It’s unfortunate that Apple can’t seem to really build enough momentum here to become a gaming destination.

I think they will get there in time. They like to focus on things and not spread themselves thin. They always wanted to get the gaming market share but AI is taking all their time now.

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I'm confused. They're claiming "Apple’s M4 Max is the first production CPU to pass 4000 Single-Core score in Geekbench 6." yet I can see hundreds of other test results for single core performance above 4000 in the last 2 years?

Could those be overclockers? I often see strange results on there that looks like either overclockers or prototypes. Maybe they mean this is the fastest general purpose single core you can buy that is that fast off the shelf with no tinkering.

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I'm confused. They're claiming "Apple’s M4 Max is the first production CPU to pass 4000 Single-Core score in Geekbench 6." yet I can see hundreds of other test results for single core performance above 4000 in the last 2 years?

Are those production results?

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1962935 says it was running at 13.54 GHz. https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4913899 looks... questionable.

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Good enough to be used for gaming? Really want Apple to get into that because dealing with Windows sucks.

That depends on what you want to play and what other things that suck that you’re willing to tolerate.

The GPUs in previous M chips aren’t beating AMD or NVidia’s top offerings on anything except VRAM but you can definitely play games with them. Apple has released their Game Porting Toolkit a couple years ago which is basically like Wine/Proton in Linux and if you’re comfortable with Wine and approximately what a Steam Deck can run then that’s about what you can expect to run on a newer Mac.

Installing Steam or GOG Galaxy with something like Whiskey.app (which leverages the game porting toolkit) opens up a large number of games on macOS. Games that need Windows root kits are probably a pain point, and you’re probably not going to push all those video setting sliders to the far right for Ultra graphics on a 4K screen, but there’s a lot of games that are very playable on macOS and M chips.

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