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Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by zelphirkalt »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #49
Xcelerate wrote: post #12

How long until advertisements are subtly introduced? I didn’t notice any specific brand of limoncello recommended in their demo.

Honestly, if I can disable ads by paying them, then I'm ok with it. Google will suck all your data even if you pay, and link the entire earth of services to your identity. For now, chatgpt doesn't care, and I already pay for what they provide. May they kill Google. 20 years old me would freak out hearing me that, they used to be my heroes.

You are thinking you can pay them to not use your data? Think again. They will sneakily use your data anyway. If not yours, then the data of people who do not change setting xyz. Oops, the last update must have reset that option for some users.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by beng-nl »

marban wrote: post #7
nextworddev wrote: post #5

I have turned bearish on Perplexity recently, this confirms it

Perplexity was a cult in the first place.

I’m surprised at all the negativity on perplexity. I think it’s a great approach (base answers on sources) and their product seems to deliver on the premise.

That said, anecdotally, I find it’s a bit hit-miss: if it’s hit it’s a huge improvement over google (and a minor improvement over chatgpt), if it’s miss it’s still good but get the feeling you won’t get anywhere further by asking more questions.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by swatcoder »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #49
Xcelerate wrote: post #12

How long until advertisements are subtly introduced? I didn’t notice any specific brand of limoncello recommended in their demo.

Honestly, if I can disable ads by paying them, then I'm ok with it. Google will suck all your data even if you pay, and link the entire earth of services to your identity. For now, chatgpt doesn't care, and I already pay for what they provide. May they kill Google. 20 years old me would freak out hearing me that, they used to be my heroes.

> Honestly, if I can disable ads by paying them, then I'm ok with it.

The modern maxim is: any content platform large enough to host an ad sales department will sell ads

Vanishingly few (valuable) consumers have zero tolerance for ads, so not selling ads means leaving huge sums of money on the table once you get to a certain scale. Large organizations have demonstrated that they can't resist that opportunity.

The road out is to either convince everyone to have zero tolerance for ads (good luck), to just personally opt for disperse, smaller vendors that distinguish themselves in a niche by not indulging, or to just support and use adversarial ad blockers in order to take personal control. Hoping that the next behemoth that everybody wants to use will protect you from ads is a non-starter. Sooner or later, they're going to take your money and serve you ads, just like the others.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by zelphirkalt »

qwertox wrote: post #64

Makes me question why Google never bothered to create something like search sessions which could be enriched with comments/notes and would be located in a sidebar just like the chats in ChatGPT/Claude/Mistral are. They really had the potential to do something interesting, but were just focused on their ad metrics with the "good enough" search box. What have they been doing all the time?

Collecting people's data and making money from that.

Re: ChatGPT Search

#97

Post by shitter »

Maxion wrote: post #71
shitter wrote: post #44

I asked it the current weather in my area and the temperature was off by 23 degrees F.

What the hell did you ask it / what was the source? I just did the same thing and it gave me the correct answer and used my countries best known meteroligcal site?

It used good sources but appeared not to extract the information correctly.

Repeating the same query in the same chat session gave me an accurate answer.

Re: ChatGPT Search

#98

Post by littlestymaar »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #89
littlestymaar wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not long before it's forbidden by law with rules like “if you say the name of one brand, you must name at least two competitors” I suspect.

That'll be the European version.

Don't Americans also have rules about hidden advertising like that in regular media?

Re: ChatGPT Search

#100

Post by FriedPickles »

jsheard wrote: post #69
Xcelerate wrote: post #12

How long until advertisements are subtly introduced? I didn’t notice any specific brand of limoncello recommended in their demo.

Probably not long, some users already got A/B'ed into testing "sponsored results" https://i.imgur.com/UpAptFL.png

The response on the left references specific products, but where's the evidence that it's sponsored?
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