Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court • Hacker News Board

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by hayleox » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 10:57 PM UTC

moralestapia wrote: post #447

hayleox wrote: post #436

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Here's what their server stack looks like: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_servers Lot of replication and caching in there. For every cache there has to be a solution for how we're gonna make sure India doesn't receive the cached version, or receives a different cached version than the rest of the world. You also need to be sure that none of your changes are going to cause any significant reliability or per…

>"you don't understand the scale of wikipedia" or some bs

Yeah, I saw. I was just explaining that it's not just some BS; there are very good reasons why they couldn't put together a well-tested reliable solution with a 36-hour deadline.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by calvinmorrison » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 11:03 PM UTC

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #405

calvinmorrison wrote: post #321

I don't really oppose gdpr but one of the reasons I vehemently opposed implementing GDPR at my former job is that we were not operating in the EU. Well, we had customers there, but we were an American company operating with American severs. GDPR sets another precident that other countries can make laws about what people from other jurisdictions can do.. Our lawyers said "Do it anyway, just in case". The side effect o…

As an EU-er, i made a US FOIA request...got what i wanted and the US company changed their behavio(u)r. I get the feeling you dont quite understand the GDPR.

you missed the entire point.

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Post by silexia » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 3:06 PM UTC

Remember when all of the far left folks around here thought it was okay to censor x.com? Once you start allowing censorship of one side, the same tools can get used against you. Fight all censorship, even if it's speech you disagree with.

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Post by ants_everywhere » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 11:09 PM UTC

account42 wrote: post #484

ants_everywhere wrote: post #69

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I mean it's a pretty fundamental tenet of liberty that you have the freedom to do things only to the extent that you don't harm others. And it's a simple consequence of scaling that the more massively you scale a communication system like the internet the more pathways there are for person A to harm person B. So naturally there end up being more cases evaluating harm that involve the internet. Some of those cases wil…

The problem here is how you define harm. "Sticks and stones may break my bones But words shall never hurt me." used to be the commonly accepted Wisdom, and with that definition you don't need to controll what others are allowed to say. I don't think it's a coincidence that governments are all to happy to get rid of that sentiment for exposing their lies does harm them.

That's a nursery rhyme we tell kids to help them be brave though. It's not a principle of law.

Defamation and similar concepts are ancient. Ostracization, excommunication, etc are also harms committed primarily by using (or withholding) words that have been recognized throughout almost all of human history as ways to significantly harm someone.

So I think one would have to work pretty hard to come up with a theory where only bodily harm counts.

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Post by marcus_holmes » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 2:21 AM UTC

ruthmarx wrote: post #438

Aeolun wrote: post #430

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Yeah, no. If my 5 year old can look at it without worry, so can random airport guy number 34.

You continue to miss the point. But if you're happy handing over your personal data, and your stance is representative of most Australians, that's probably why privacy protections are so weak in Australia - most don't understand why they should care.

This. The old "if you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to worry about".

It's all good until the leopards start eating their face, then suddenly they understand the problem.

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Post by Dah00n » Fri, Nov 01, 2024, 3:30 PM UTC

indrora wrote: post #187

ruthmarx wrote: post #172

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Would it? It's not like Indians would stop accessing it. Then due to a stupid ruling they lost the ability to have any control over it at all.

Actual change is not required, symbolic change is enough. India, much like Nazi Germany, is a culture that views position over all else; simply being in power is enough to make your word greater than anyone else's truth.

Did really you just compare India to Nazism?