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Post by fellowniusmonk »

bearjaws wrote: post #228
Almondsetat wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 12MP will be used for better framing, there is still almost no use case for 4k quality video conferencing

It is truly sad how bad Zoom / Google Meet / Teams are when it comes to video quality. I look at my local source vs the recording, and I am baffled. After a decade of online meeting software, we still stream 480p quality it seems.

I mean you can easily create your own fully meshed P2P group video chat in your browser just using a little bit of JS that would support everyone running 4k, but it will fail the moment you get more than 3-8 people as each persons video stream is eating 25mbps for every side of a peer connection (or 2x per edge in the graph.)

A huge part of group video chat is still "hacks" like downsampling non-speaking participants so the bandwidth doesn't kill the connection.

As we get fatter pipes and faster GPUs streaming will become better.

edit: I mean... I could see a future where realtime video feeds never get super high resolution and everything effectively becomes a relatively seemless AI recreation where only facial movement data is transmitted similar to how game engines work now.

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Post by mark_l_watson »

carlgreene wrote: post #94

What’s amazing is that in the past I’ve felt the need to upgrade within a few years. New video format or more demanding music software is released that slows the machine down, or battery life craters. Well, I haven’t had even a tinge of feeling that I need to upgrade after getting my M1 Pro MBP. I can’t remember it ever skipping a beat running a serious Ableton project, or editing in Resolve. Can stuff be faster? Tec…

I think regretting Mac upgrades is a real thing, at least for me. I got a 32G Mac mini in January to run local LLMs. While it does so beautifully, there are now smaller LLMs that run fine on my very old 8G M1 MacBook Pro, and these newer smaller models do almost all of what I want for NLP tasks, data transformation, RAG, etc. I feel like I wasted my money.

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Post by JodieBenitez »

carlgreene wrote: post #94

What’s amazing is that in the past I’ve felt the need to upgrade within a few years. New video format or more demanding music software is released that slows the machine down, or battery life craters. Well, I haven’t had even a tinge of feeling that I need to upgrade after getting my M1 Pro MBP. I can’t remember it ever skipping a beat running a serious Ableton project, or editing in Resolve. Can stuff be faster? Tec…

Ditto... will probably upgrade when the battery is dead !

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Post by sroussey »

bearjaws wrote: post #228
Almondsetat wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 12MP will be used for better framing, there is still almost no use case for 4k quality video conferencing

It is truly sad how bad Zoom / Google Meet / Teams are when it comes to video quality. I look at my local source vs the recording, and I am baffled. After a decade of online meeting software, we still stream 480p quality it seems.

FaceTime has great quality. Unfortunately, as you age you start to hate the quality.

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Post by andrei_says_ »

carlgreene wrote: post #94

What’s amazing is that in the past I’ve felt the need to upgrade within a few years. New video format or more demanding music software is released that slows the machine down, or battery life craters. Well, I haven’t had even a tinge of feeling that I need to upgrade after getting my M1 Pro MBP. I can’t remember it ever skipping a beat running a serious Ableton project, or editing in Resolve. Can stuff be faster? Tec…

I got 6+ years out of my last intel MacBook Pro and expect at least the same from my M1 Max. Both have MagSafe and hdmi output :)

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Post by crazygringo »

carlgreene wrote: post #94

What’s amazing is that in the past I’ve felt the need to upgrade within a few years. New video format or more demanding music software is released that slows the machine down, or battery life craters. Well, I haven’t had even a tinge of feeling that I need to upgrade after getting my M1 Pro MBP. I can’t remember it ever skipping a beat running a serious Ableton project, or editing in Resolve. Can stuff be faster? Tec…

Yup, honestly the main reason I'd like to upgrade from my M1 MBA is the newer webcams are 1080p instead of 720p, and particularly much better in low light like in the evening.

Has nothing whatsoever to do with CPU/memory/etc.

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Post by ygouzerh »

throw0101a wrote: post #27

> All MacBook Pro models feature an HDMI port that supports up to 8K resolution, a SDXC card slot, a MagSafe 3 port for charging, and a headphone jack, along with support for Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3. No Wifi 7. So you get access to the 6 GHz band, but not some of the other features (preamble punching, OFDMA): * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_7 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_6E The iPhone 16s do have Wi…

It looks like few people only are using Wifi 7 for now. Maybe they are going to include it in the next generation when more people will use it.
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