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Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by fhdsgbbcaA »

ntulpule wrote: post #88

Hi, I lead the teams responsible for our internal developer tools, including AI features. We work very closely with Google DeepMind to adapt Gemini models for Google-scale coding and other Software Engineering usecases. Google has a unique, massive monorepo which poses a lot of fun challenges when it comes to deploying AI capabilities at scale. 1. We take a lot of care to make sure the AI recommendations are safe and…

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how an LLM trained in really high quality code would perform.

I’m far from impressed with the output of GPT/Claude, all they’ve done is weight against stack overflow - which is still low quality code relative to Google.

What is probability Google makes this a real product, or is it too likely to autocomplete trade secrets?

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by gamesetmath »

ntulpule wrote: post #88

Hi, I lead the teams responsible for our internal developer tools, including AI features. We work very closely with Google DeepMind to adapt Gemini models for Google-scale coding and other Software Engineering usecases. Google has a unique, massive monorepo which poses a lot of fun challenges when it comes to deploying AI capabilities at scale. 1. We take a lot of care to make sure the AI recommendations are safe and…

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Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by valval »

reverius42 wrote: post #89
ntulpule wrote: post #88

Hi, I lead the teams responsible for our internal developer tools, including AI features. We work very closely with Google DeepMind to adapt Gemini models for Google-scale coding and other Software Engineering usecases. Google has a unique, massive monorepo which poses a lot of fun challenges when it comes to deploying AI capabilities at scale. 1. We take a lot of care to make sure the AI recommendations are safe and…

To me the most interesting part of this is the claim that you can accurately and meaningfully measure software engineering productivity.

You can come up with measures for it and then watch them, that’s for sure.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by hitradostava »

ntulpule wrote: post #88

Hi, I lead the teams responsible for our internal developer tools, including AI features. We work very closely with Google DeepMind to adapt Gemini models for Google-scale coding and other Software Engineering usecases. Google has a unique, massive monorepo which poses a lot of fun challenges when it comes to deploying AI capabilities at scale. 1. We take a lot of care to make sure the AI recommendations are safe and…

I'm continually surprised by the amount of negativity that accompanies these sort of statements. The direction of travel is very clear - LLM based systems will be writing more and more code at all companies.

I don't think this is a bad thing - if this can be accompanied by an increase in software quality, which is possible. Right now its very hit and miss and everyone has examples of LLMs producing buggy or ridiculous code. But once the tooling improves to:

1. align produced code better to existing patterns and architecture 2. fix the feedback loop - with TDD, other LLM agents reviewing code, feeding in compile errors, letting other LLM agents interact with the produced code, etc.

Then we will definitely start seeing more and more code produced by LLMs. Don't look at the state of the art not, look at the direction of travel.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by rcarmo »

dietr1ch wrote: post #42
jrockway wrote: post #4

When I was there, way more than 25% of the code was copying one proto into another proto, or so people complained. What sort of memes are people making now that this task has been automated?

I miss old memegen, but it got ruined by HR :/

I am reliably told that it is alive and well, even if it’s changed a bit.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by ozim »

reverius42 wrote: post #89
ntulpule wrote: post #88

Hi, I lead the teams responsible for our internal developer tools, including AI features. We work very closely with Google DeepMind to adapt Gemini models for Google-scale coding and other Software Engineering usecases. Google has a unique, massive monorepo which poses a lot of fun challenges when it comes to deploying AI capabilities at scale. 1. We take a lot of care to make sure the AI recommendations are safe and…

To me the most interesting part of this is the claim that you can accurately and meaningfully measure software engineering productivity.

You can - but not on the level of a single developer and you cannot use those measures to manage productivity of a specific dev.

For teams you can measure meaningful outcomes and improve team metrics.

You shouldn’t really compare teams but it also is possible if you know what teams are doing.

If you are some disconnected manager that thinks he can make decisions or improvements reducing things to single numbers - yeah that’s not possible.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by pixxel »

ntulpule wrote: post #88

Hi, I lead the teams responsible for our internal developer tools, including AI features. We work very closely with Google DeepMind to adapt Gemini models for Google-scale coding and other Software Engineering usecases. Google has a unique, massive monorepo which poses a lot of fun challenges when it comes to deploying AI capabilities at scale. 1. We take a lot of care to make sure the AI recommendations are safe and…

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Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by JimDabell »

tylerchilds wrote: post #8

if the golden rule is that code is a liability, what does this headline imply?

Nothing at all. The headline talks about the proportion of code written by AI. Contrary to what a lot of comments here are assuming, it does not say that the volume of code written has increased.

Google could be writing the same amount of code with fewer developers (they have had multiple layoffs lately), or their developers could be focusing more of their time and attention on the code they do write.

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