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Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by tempoponet »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #188
xyst wrote: post #129

Positives: + form factor + ARM/Apple silicon/SoC Negatives: - Apple tax on memory, storage - non-upgradeable - Apple tax on 1GbE to 10 GbE ($100 surcharge lol) - maxes out at 64G of configurable memory w/ m4 pro Got to give it to Apple. The traunches between different configuration levels is “small” enough to convince buyers to enter the next level. It’s like “hey, you are already at $4000 for m4 pro with 64g. Just s…

>I wonder how many consumers fall into this sunk cost fallacy scenario that Apple has designed. Almost all of them, and the lowest tiers of the entire lineup are essentially ewaste in a box just there to push a few hundred $ on you.

I have to disagree - the baseline models satisfy the needs of many casual consumers and the price point puts it within their reach. For $600, most of us could give this to our parents and it would be great for 7-10 years.

For those who need more performance, better value is found at higher rungs of the product lineup, and this has been Apple's strategy for decades.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by lenerdenator »

ikety wrote: post #376
HumblyTossed wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wish I still had a .edu email address...

You don't need one. There's just a checkbox asking you to pinky promise that you actually are a student

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by setgree »

huijzer wrote: post #372
e63f67dd-065b wrote: post #330

With educational pricing this thing starts as $500, and at 16GB of RAM (finally) I think this easily beats any sort of desktop PC you can buy at that price (let's exclude custom builds, they're not the same market). I think this just became the go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop computer of any kind. In fact I might buy one for my parents right now to replace the old mac mini the…

Do note only 256 GB of storage. Should be enough for most people, but at the same time can become very annoying once it gets full.

We can reasonably expect

1) external storage to become faster and cheaper every year (subject to constraints around interface)

2) more and more digital assets to be cloud-native, e.g. photos stored exclusively on icloud and not on your computer

So I'm less worried about storage than some. If Asahi Linux achieves Proton-like compatibility with games [0], then we're getting closer to the perfect general purpose game console.

[0] https://asahilinux.org/2024/10/aaa-gaming-on-asahi-linux/

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by butterlettuce »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #373
e63f67dd-065b wrote: post #330

With educational pricing this thing starts as $500, and at 16GB of RAM (finally) I think this easily beats any sort of desktop PC you can buy at that price (let's exclude custom builds, they're not the same market). I think this just became the go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop computer of any kind. In fact I might buy one for my parents right now to replace the old mac mini the…

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sigh another Windows fanboy pushing inferior hardware for an inferior OS.

The lot of us grew out of gaming in our teens and do real work now.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by not_your_vase »

Funny thing that when I look at it, $600 is objectively cheap, not only by Apple standards - I remember 8 or 9 years ago I really-really wanted a Mac Mini, but just couldn't afford the 320 EUR (including like 10 EUR IBMer discount) they asked for the base model back then, new. Inflation happens on strange ways...

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by _mlbt »

huijzer wrote: post #372
e63f67dd-065b wrote: post #330

With educational pricing this thing starts as $500, and at 16GB of RAM (finally) I think this easily beats any sort of desktop PC you can buy at that price (let's exclude custom builds, they're not the same market). I think this just became the go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop computer of any kind. In fact I might buy one for my parents right now to replace the old mac mini the…

Do note only 256 GB of storage. Should be enough for most people, but at the same time can become very annoying once it gets full.

It’s a desktop, so plugging in a USB external hard drive isn’t too painful or expensive.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by erur »

makeitdouble wrote: post #273
sureIy wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy if you just buy meaningless carbon credits.

Given how Apple is pushing the carbon neutral narrative while still not reaching the goal on all its products, I assume just buying the credits would tank their margins enough to push them to actually reduce the footprint first. This looks to me like one instance where the incentives are decently working, at least to some point.

Maybe. Alternatively it could just be the marketing department milking the narrative over an extended amount of time. Going instantly 100% “carbon neutral” through carbon credits is certainly a worse move in this regard.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by reaperducer »

farawayea wrote: post #381
ErneX wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but that’s easy to solve via USB

That's not a solution when your main SSD dies. The system no longer boots. The guy from the youtube video explains that as well. Normal computers with NVMe storage will always be more repairable than Apple's hardware with everything soldered on the board.

That's not a solution when your main SSD dies. The system no longer boots.

Is that new? I ran an iMac with a dead internal drive off of an external Thunderbolt drive for several years.

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