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Launch HN: Integuru (YC W24) – Reverse-engineer internal APIs using LLMs

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Re: Launch HN: Integuru (YC W24) – Reverse-engineer internal APIs using LLMs

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Post by mdaniel »

Ah, by clicking on the Taiki logo to see what the ... parent company? ... builds, I now understand how this came about. And I'll be honest, as someone who hates all that tax paperwork gathering with all my heart, this launch may have gotten you a new customer for Taiki :-)

Also, just as a friendly suggestion, given what both(?) products seemingly do, this section could use some love other than "we use TLS": https://www.taiki.ai/faq#:~:text=How%20does%20Taiki%20handle... since TLS doesn't care about storing credentials in plain text in a DB, for example

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p.s. the GitHub organization in your .gitmodules is still pointing to Unofficial-APIs which I actually think you should have kept o/

Re: Launch HN: Integuru (YC W24) – Reverse-engineer internal APIs using LLMs

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Post by alanloo »

mdaniel wrote: post #31

Ah, by clicking on the Taiki logo to see what the ... parent company? ... builds, I now understand how this came about. And I'll be honest, as someone who hates all that tax paperwork gathering with all my heart, this launch may have gotten you a new customer for Taiki :-) Also, just as a friendly suggestion, given what both(?) products seemingly do, this section could use some love other than "we use TLS": https://w…

Thank you for your suggestions, and really glad to hear you're excited about Taiki! We will update the the FAQ with your suggestions — honestly, this part of the website is a bit outdated, and we will make sure to change it.

Regarding the Unofficial-APIs name, it was a really tough decision. We liked the name a lot but just thought it was a bit long. A Real pleasant surprise that you found it :)

Re: Launch HN: Integuru (YC W24) – Reverse-engineer internal APIs using LLMs

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Post by lo0dot0 »

_hl_ wrote: post #7

This is awesome, but I'm not sure what the long-term use case for the intersection of low-latency integration and non-production-stable is? I'm saying this as someone with way more experience than I'd like to in using reverse-engineered APIs as part of production products... You inevitably run into breakages, sometimes even actively hostile platforms, which will degrade user experience as users wait for your 1day win…

New pipe breaks regularly. It's almost like YouTube changes the API on purpose to hurt 3rd party clients that don't show ads.

Re: Launch HN: Integuru (YC W24) – Reverse-engineer internal APIs using LLMs

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Post by DougWebb »

compootr wrote: post #18
nkotov wrote: post #15

This is really awesome. There's several platforms that intentionally gate keep their API and it makes really annoying to build integrations with them. How do you go about these platforms and not breaking their TOS?

I don't think it really matters to them. As a provider giving access to these platforms, they're not the user (and they didn't agree to the terms). the end user did, so it's on them to decide whether they risk getting terminated or whatnot

If they have deeper pockets than the user, they're the ones who will get sued for abuse they enable.

Re: Launch HN: Integuru (YC W24) – Reverse-engineer internal APIs using LLMs

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Post by bryant »

dewey wrote: post #2

If your landing page doesn't look like this, you've launched too late: https://integuru.ai

Page source is amazing. I can't remember the last time I've seen a serious YC company launch page with absolutely zero JavaScript. Even the CSS is just a single selector.

I'm a fan.

Re: Launch HN: Integuru (YC W24) – Reverse-engineer internal APIs using LLMs

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Post by daveguy »

shmatt wrote: post #22
richardzhang wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are working on a way to auto-patch internal APIs that change by having another agent trigger the requests. Regarding the legality aspects — really appreciate you mentioning this — we’ve put a lot of thought into these issues, and it’s something we’re continually working on and refining. Ultimately, our goal is to allow each developer to make their own informed decision regarding the policies of the platforms that…

I have to disagree, it is definitely not legal in the US to use unauthorized access points to access authorized data. Thats like saying you're allowed to get into your apartment through breaking your neighbors door and climbing between the windows In the US this is pretty simply covered by Computer Misuse Act and Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, both federal laws Im not claiming you're liable, just surprised no lawyer p…

This analogy is completely off. A closer analogy is someone calls you on your phone letting you know they're here. You were expecting them, so you say "come on in." But, they were at the back door instead of the front door. I don't think anyone would consider that your friend did something illegal.

Re: Launch HN: Integuru (YC W24) – Reverse-engineer internal APIs using LLMs

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Post by alanloo »

jerrygenser wrote: post #21
alanloo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good question. Finding the request that's responsible for the action you want will be a bit trickier for SSR, but it's still possible for most cases. It auto-generates regex (for now) to parse out needed info out of the html template.

Another thing I've seen is that some of these old school apps are sending certain requests that don't modify the page but set server side context which subsequent requests are dependent on. For example, set context to a particular group and then subsequent navigation depends is filtered on that group even though the filter is not explicit on the client side but due to state stored in the session remotely. This can al…

Very interesting to hear about your experience here! We haven't come across a website that has this design and don't offer support for this just yet. We can certainly implement if more people face a similar situation.
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