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Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by medell »

yunohn wrote: post #191
jsheard wrote: post #8

16GB base RAM across the board, following the iMac. AI is certainly good for pushing up the baseline RAM that manufacturers can get away with shipping if nothing else.

I learned yesterday that all M-chip Macs with enough RAM are getting Apple Intelligence? This basically proves that Apple shot themselves in the foot for AI on mobile by artificially restricting RAM for so long! Heck, even the Neural Engine has turned out to be basically useless despite all their grandstanding. So alas, their prior greed has resulted in their most popular consumer iDevices being the least AI compatib…

This might actually push people to upgrade their hardware. And Apple retention rates are high. Apple will be fine.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by orangecat »

kstrauser wrote: post #141
999900000999 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think these even boot once the SSDs die. Apple knows how to make money, I can buy a quality 4TB Nvme for 300$( you can definitely go lower if you want to risk it ). The upgrade to 4TB on the M4 Pro Mini is 1200$(it's not supported on the base model) , on top of 1400$ for the actual computer. It I had to guess, most of Apple's margin is on users riding the pricing ladder up into the stratosphere. I had an expe…

> I don't think these even boot once the SSDs die. All Macs that I know of let you configure the boot drive. I had an older Mac Mini with a spinning HDD. I added an external SSD, set that up as the boot drive, and never touched the slow drive again. I'd be extremely surprised if you couldn't do the same with this.

M-series Macs require a functioning internal drive in order to boot off external storage: https://tidbits.com/2021/05/27/an-m1-mac-cant-boot-from-an-e...

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by TiredOfLife »

eamag wrote: post #43
leetharris wrote: post #24

Love to see that it still starts at $599. My M2 Mac Mini that I got for $499 is my favorite gaming computer I've had in a long time. Runs many games like WoW, Dota, League of Legends, etc great. Anything that it doesn't run due to MacOS I use GeForce Now over ethernet. And this was with 8gb unified memory, now with 16gb it'll be even better value. Very excited to see how the GPU has improved in the M4, especially the…

Isn't steamdeck a better option for this use case?

On SteamDeck Geforce Now is limited to 1080p, due to NVIDIA being a tiny indie company with no resources to make a native client.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by Hamuko »

nordsieck wrote: post #9

The new model is looking really good. * Kept HDMI * New, much smaller form factor * Front facing USB-C * Base model has 16 gb of ram

I think I’d miss my USB-A ports if I switched my Mac Studio for this. Apart from that, it looks pretty good. Not really sure if it’s worth saving a couple of hundred when you spec it up to par with an M4 Max Mac Studio when that comes out though. It’s the same price as the base M2 Max Mac Studio when you upgrade the memory and SoC.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by burnerthrow008 »

awiesenhofer wrote: post #173
jsheard wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It kind of undermines the sleek form factor if you need to have a clunky NVMe enclosure dangling off the back though. Even with this tiny new design I bet they could fit a hatch on the bottom with space for a 2230 M.2 drive, but they don't want to because that would let you upgrade to 2TB of fast internal storage for $200 instead of $800.

> clunky NVMe enclosure We really are living in the future if people are using these words in combination. Though compared to this new mini a lot will feel clunky. Any HDD enclosure is certainly larger.

It’s not the size of the NVMe enclosure that makes it clunky. It’s that you now have an extra dongle hanging off the back of your Mac and cluttering up the desk.

There is a reason for the popularity of those enclosure/hub combos that have the same footprint and color as the Mini.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by captainbland »

yunohn wrote: post #191
jsheard wrote: post #8

16GB base RAM across the board, following the iMac. AI is certainly good for pushing up the baseline RAM that manufacturers can get away with shipping if nothing else.

I learned yesterday that all M-chip Macs with enough RAM are getting Apple Intelligence? This basically proves that Apple shot themselves in the foot for AI on mobile by artificially restricting RAM for so long! Heck, even the Neural Engine has turned out to be basically useless despite all their grandstanding. So alas, their prior greed has resulted in their most popular consumer iDevices being the least AI compatib…

Sounds like they've just done planned obsolescence faster to their lower paying customers.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by anentropic »

terramex wrote: post #19

How good are modern external hard drives? Is it worth paying for more internal SSD storage or is it more reasonable to get high quality USB one?

I've been using external drives for years and would love to get rid of them now internal ones of a decent size are available

It's always been a slightly clunky experience - having to eject them before I can undock my laptop, or the way they never go to sleep (some issue with CalDigit TB dock...?)

I used to think of them as a backup, but since moving house a couple of years ago my internet is fast enough to make Backblaze viable

Next time I upgrade I'm just going to have less boxes on the desk, less power-drawing crap plugged in all the time

I hate the price of 8TB storage on these though :(

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by collinmanderson »

hollerith wrote: post #114
animal_spirits wrote: post #37

> Mac mini is made with over 50 percent recycled content overall, including 100 percent recycled aluminum in the enclosure, 100 percent recycled gold plating in all Apple-designed printed circuit boards, and 100 percent recycled rare earth elements in all magnets. The electricity used to manufacture Mac mini is sourced from 100 percent renewable electricity. And, to address 100 percent of the electricity customers us…

The Apple employees who worked on this product cause a lot of CO2 emissions just living their lives. I'm guessing Apple didn't try to offset that CO2.

If we truly want to achieve zero emissions globally we need to take seriously all sources of CO2 emissions, the full carbon footprint of companies. Not just energy use.

It's not entirely unreasonable to ask companies to be responsible for carbon capture or in the short term an offset for their employees breathing on the clock, as funny as that sounds.

We need to take all sources of carbon emissions seriously. This shouldn't be downvoted.

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