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Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by philwelch »

Sabinus wrote: post #435
philwelch wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Federal prosecutors tried to make an extremely favorable plea deal with Hunter Biden that granted immunity to a host of crimes he wasn’t charged with. The judges ended up throwing it out. Don’t rule out a lame duck pardon, either. Both Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton pardoned their ne’er-do-well relatives, and it’s very common for Presidents to issue pardons during their final days in office.

>Don’t rule out a lame duck pardon, either. Biden was asked if he would pardon his son, and he said no. But this is entirely beside the point, because Trump would pardon his son without a second thought and Trump supporters wouldn't blink. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-tells-muir-wouldnt-par... https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/06/politics/biden-will-not-p... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c133mdjkl7go

He also said he wouldn’t drop out of the election.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by LeoMessi10 »

random_ind_dude wrote: post #306

I understand that Wikipedia has done this to not lose the possibility to appeal the court's decision. However, if the appeal is not successful and ANI wins, I think Wikipedia should just block India completely. I believe that will blow up spectacularly in ANI's face if everyone comes to know the reason for the block. Right now only a few people in India know about the ongoing dispute between ANI and Wikipedia. A coun…

Wait and watch. Wikipedia will do anything but never leave India. It’s a funny world we live in where foreign NGOs and “organisations with good intentions” operate to control opinions of the biggest set of people in a shady neo-colonialistic manner. BBC’s antics in India should be studied in detail. NGOs and portals like caravan that sprang up out of nowhere and “stay relevant with little public support” (key phrase), serve one-sided narratives which people are now seeing through hence they elected the same leadership a third time (almost unprecedented). These narratives from BBC, Caravan are what Wikipedia uses to back their claims. They are upset that their multiple attempts at painting a leader as a perpetrator of mass genocide don’t stick in the minds of people.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by LeoMessi10 »

fwipsy wrote: post #15

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International covers the lawsuit as well. "In July 2024, ANI filed a lawsuit against Wikimedia Foundation in the Delhi High Court — claiming to have been defamed in its article on Wikipedia — and sought ₹2 crore (US$240,000) in damages.[16][17][18] On 5 September, the Court threatened to hold Wikimedia guilty of contempt for failing to disclose information about the editors…

Wait and watch. Wikipedia will do anything but never leave India. It’s a funny world we live in where foreign NGOs and “organisations with good intentions” operate to control opinions of the biggest set of people in a shady neo-colonialistic manner. BBC’s antics in India should be studied in detail. NGOs and portals like caravan that sprang up out of nowhere and “stay relevant with little public support” (key phrase), serve one-sided narratives which people are now seeing through hence they elected the same leadership a third time (almost unprecedented). These narratives from BBC, Caravan are what Wikipedia uses to back their claims. They are upset that their multiple attempts at painting a leader as a perpetrator of mass genocide don’t stick in the minds of people.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by LeoMessi10 »

EasyMark wrote: post #95

I can understand shutting it down to Indian IP ranges, but the whole world? I think they should have stood up to the Indian court and took wikipedia offline for India, otherwise soon there will be avalanche of demands to take down anything negative about modi, trump, xi, and putin.

Wait and watch. Wikipedia will do anything but never leave India. It’s a funny world we live in where foreign NGOs and “organisations with good intentions” operate to control opinions of the biggest set of people in a shady neo-colonialistic manner. BBC’s antics in India should be studied in detail. NGOs and portals like caravan that sprang up out of nowhere and “stay relevant with little public support” (key phrase), serve one-sided narratives which people are now seeing through hence they elected the same leadership a third time (almost unprecedented). These narratives from BBC, Caravan are what Wikipedia uses to back their claims. They are upset that their multiple attempts at painting a leader as a perpetrator of mass genocide don’t stick in the minds of people.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by LeoMessi10 »

XenophileJKO wrote: post #56
ImJamal wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of Wikipedia would likely be banned which, I assume, they want to avoid.

If I were Wikipedia, I would just shut off access for a week or two.

That would be true if they were running Wikipedia out of the goodness of their heart. Wikipedia will not leave India as they are running to mould public opinion in a specific way. There is a reason foreign orgs are trying hard to meddle in Indian politics and the public still keeps electing the same leader which is unprecedented. Some day it will become a case study as to how the whole internet (“civilized people”) in all countries was bending over backwards to be politically correct, while India was resisting the pressure to hand over their future to a “trusted group of altruists at the center of everything”.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by LeoMessi10 »

sideshowb wrote: post #182
ImJamal wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of Wikipedia would likely be banned which, I assume, they want to avoid.

It's tempting to think the better strategy is to let the current Indian government block them and see how that plays out.

That would be true if WMF were running Wikipedia out of the goodness of their heart. They won’t leave India as they want to play a critical part in shaping public opinion among the largest group of people. Sadly people in India don’t agree with the political coverage of Wikipedia and other such media, which is what upsets almost all foreign NGOs, portals, companies in India. Some day it will become a case study as to how the whole internet (“civilized people”) in all countries was bending over backwards to be politically correct, while India was resisting the pressure to hand over their future to a “trusted group of altruists at the center of everything”.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by Sabinus »

philwelch wrote: post #451
Sabinus wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Don’t rule out a lame duck pardon, either. Biden was asked if he would pardon his son, and he said no. But this is entirely beside the point, because Trump would pardon his son without a second thought and Trump supporters wouldn't blink. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-tells-muir-wouldnt-par... https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/06/politics/biden-will-not-p... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c133mdjkl7go

He also said he wouldn’t drop out of the election.

Yeah the party spent weeks arguing with him to put the country before his desire to be a two term president. Something Trump is far too egotistical to do. But this is entirely beside the point, because the Democrat politicians are held to a far higher standard than the Republicans politicians are, especially Trump.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by cellularmitosis »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #315
Xelbair wrote: post #280

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>To be fair, chromium has an inordinate amount of access. We all trust chromium’s developers but I’ve never met them. So it’s a realistic risk but we (hope) not a threat. >To be fair, Windows has an inordinate amount of access. We all trust Microsoft developers but I’ve never met them. So it’s a realistic risk but we (hope) not a threat. I can keep going to point out how flawed this line of reasoning is, especially t…

It’s weakly worse to trust your OS + Browser + third party, than just OS + Browser. Moreover, small projects can be purchased more easily. See PIA. Users need to stay updated about ownership changes. It might be viable for us, but not for everyone.

Uh oh. What do I need to know about PIA and do I need to cancel my subscription?

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by [deleted] »

Sabinus wrote: post #457
philwelch wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He also said he wouldn’t drop out of the election.

Yeah the party spent weeks arguing with him to put the country before his desire to be a two term president. Something Trump is far too egotistical to do. But this is entirely beside the point, because the Democrat politicians are held to a far higher standard than the Republicans politicians are, especially Trump.

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