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Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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https://www.neotokyo.com I have a +100 cel backlog that I need to catalog and photograph. Was planning to do it this holiday season so check back in.

You have some awesome cells, thanks for sharing them online. Had completely forgotten about Robot Carnival and neat to see you have a few pieces from some of the shorts(episodes?) Also the resources->galleries was useful, found some new but actually old sites to check out.

I love RC and many of my wishlist items are from it. I regret I was relatively late into collecting it. Glad you appreciate the old galleries, many are internet relics which I love.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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> The issue is with the issue: people/systems (big and small) blacklisting an ownable identifier pointing to some ownable content without any care for the lifecycle of either. Does the lifecycle matter much, though? Kind of like a carfax report. Tells you whether a vehicle you’re buying has been in an accident before (if it has, the value goes down because maybe there’s some latent issue that isn’t obvious at the tim…

A carfax report lists issues with the actual car . You don’t want a car with “car exploded” in the carfax report, since this would translate to actual damage in the car, damage which could actually affect you if you were to drive the car. On the other hand, a domain reputation at Google et al. is more like Carfax reporting “This car was once parked at the same street where a horrific mass murder took place.” If this…

But in this scenario there are many more parties involved than just "the police". So you can't "just fix the police behavior" for a "solution". You'd have to "fix" any and every party that already exists or pops up in the future.

This kind of issue is inherent to any system where identifiers are recycled, particularly when that recycling happens on demand. It's not "fixable", at best it's combatable. And trying to language police away the symptom and blaming it all on the pivotal participants supports and achieves neither.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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3 assumptions that from my read are baked into your comment. - Any empty domain starts with the same reputation - Registering a new domain is a 0 cost action - The eng effort to reset domain reputation is 0 Certain domains are used by abusers more often, usually due to them being cheaper. Forcing them to move domains is extra friction to the abusers which "haunted" domains force more than the proposed new system. For…

> Any empty domain starts with the same reputation What basis would you have to do otherwise, and if there is something (like TLD), why wouldn't "resetting to zero" in terms of past content just mean resetting to that zero? > Registering a new domain is a 0 cost action No, that registering a new domain has a similar cost to renewing an existing domain, which is a valid assumption. In fact, the new domains are often c…

> What basis would you have to do otherwise, and if there is something (like TLD), why wouldn't "resetting to zero" in terms of past content just mean resetting to that zero?

Fair enough, but I'm not sure it resolves "haunted" domains as a TLD which is often abused could have a lower "0" reputation and thus by default is "haunted". Perhaps it lessens the impact though by how much is quite opaque to us.

> Whether the TLD itself has some reputation is orthogonal to the reputation of one domain in that TLD relative to another one in the same TLD.

I think this depends on how reputation works and is not so clear. Registrars for these TLD also have a responsibility but have no incentives to stop abusers. If TLD domain reputation is not orthogonal to reputation individual domains on that TLD then that could be an incentive for them to also crack down on abuse as their domains have bad SEO etc.

> If the primary goal is to reduce engineering effort then the obvious solution is to delete the entire reputation system so it doesn't have to be maintained anymore. If the primary goal is to make it work well then you have to, well, you know.

I think this is the most uncharitable interpretation. The eng effort could go to features that improves other customer experiences affecting more people.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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I'd be somewhat interested in seeing the cels. :)

https://www.neotokyo.com I have a +100 cel backlog that I need to catalog and photograph. Was planning to do it this holiday season so check back in.

It is also blocked by the UK ISP porn filter.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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"Ideally, search engine algorithms would give new domain owners a fresh start." I don't think it's possible to fix this problem without also helping bad actors. Maybe it's a problem that just isn't worth fixing. Just don't buy preexisting domains unless it's a project big enough to justify the necessary cost of due diligence.

Then help them. If a few bad actors is the price of a free internet, so be it. I'd rather deal with those than have a whitelisted internet where you need permission to start a website.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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No, those domains are completely fine, they are just marked as untrustworthy on some obscure google list.

That’s a contradictory statement.

No. There's no general stigma. It's just the one list.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Years ago I bought the carelessly discarded domain of a defence contractor that was acquired by another one. And set up a catch all email forwarder. Had weeks of fun reading all the emails that I got sent. There was nothing "secret" but plenty of social and business stuff still going on.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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https://www.neotokyo.com I have a +100 cel backlog that I need to catalog and photograph. Was planning to do it this holiday season so check back in.

It is also blocked by the UK ISP porn filter.

Does that still exist? I got a decent ISP (Zen) so they don't block anything.
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