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Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by jvdvegt »

riehwvfbk wrote: post #220
safety1st wrote: post #210

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"With software, either the users control the program, or the program controls the users." - Richard M. Stallman, 2011, writing in Der Spiegel He was right. He was always right. About all of it. People didn't listen, or perhaps were never introduced to his ideas. Software grew faster than the idea of free software (on some level this was inevitable, since the latter is by definition a subset of the former). And so, th…

You must have missed the other news this week. Linux has joined the dark side too. Banning people based on nationality is certainly against freedom and any kind of ethics worthy of being called that.

I missed it, apparently. Link?

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by happosai »

zmgsabst wrote: post #39
fireflash38 wrote: post #34

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Do you think that there's a link between an extreme proliferation of misinformation and people wanting to control it?

No. Media has always been salacious nonsense — at least, judging from the 1880s English newspapers I’ve read as part of a research writing class: they’re full of complete lies about Jack the Ripper, for instance. Most of the discussion from government is using that perennial fact to justify suppressing true information — eg, suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story or people’s personal experiences with the COVID vac…

It's weird how every single example of supposed suppression of information is something like "hunter Biden laptop" that has been reported in news ad nauseam.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

ruthmarx wrote: post #149
dartharva wrote: post #124

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It's not just the newer generations. I have multiple friends who are literally afraid of using ad blockers and sideloading apps on their Macs in fear of some imaginary boogeyman out to get them. And VPNs are exclusively the domain of criminals, apparently. There are a dominating amount of people who have turned into the caricature of the perfect CONSUMER. It is so frustrating.

It's like the humans turned into cattle in the seventh season of Supernatural, except they are doing it to themselves.

Normies were an adaptation for social cohesion of followers of chieftain, it wasn't supposed to scale beyond, say, thousand people, MSM just parasitize on this instinct.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by immibis »

Iulioh wrote: post #179
dartharva wrote: post #124

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It's not just the newer generations. I have multiple friends who are literally afraid of using ad blockers and sideloading apps on their Macs in fear of some imaginary boogeyman out to get them. And VPNs are exclusively the domain of criminals, apparently. There are a dominating amount of people who have turned into the caricature of the perfect CONSUMER. It is so frustrating.

I, for example , i'm scared of using YouTube alternative clients like re(vanced) et simila, i'm personality scared to have my youtube/gmail account banned.

If you make a new account, they'll only ban that one.

I've been permanently banned from Reddit for really dumb reasons more times than I can count. The first time, I was sad. Now, I know it's a war between users and admins, and an individual account isn't worth very much.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by immibis »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #203
air3y wrote: post #196

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Without the full details of the edit war you were involved in, the scenario seems to be clash between your "world view" and those who reversed your edits. From your username, being from a region where a successful genocide/ethnic cleansing of a minority religious group was conducted by the majority local population only a couple of decades back, the possibility of your edits being controversial to others not necessar…

>genocide/ethnic cleansing of a minority religious group 200 people of that minority were killed. I do not deny there was a mass exodus but to say a minority was ethnic cleansing is disengenous. Again, my comment was not about the exodus but regarding the politics regarding the last 500 years and more specifically the last 70-90 odd years of history. That has nothing minority-majority issue you are claiming it out to…

Mass exodus is also ethnic cleansing.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by immibis »

RobotToaster wrote: post #219
typewithrhythm wrote: post #61

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As more normies got on the web more of it becomes about how to herd them. In the early days there was less gain from authoritarian actions, because you are more likely to be resisted by the users of any service. The current users don't know how to bypass restrictions, and are generally more numerous. Making authoritarian actions more valuable. Unfortunately this leads to previously useful sites declining.

At the risk of sounding like a boomer, I blame smartphones.

Smartphones were the next stage evolution of the Eternal September effect.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by mschuster91 »

immibis wrote: post #234
Iulioh wrote: post #179

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I, for example , i'm scared of using YouTube alternative clients like re(vanced) et simila, i'm personality scared to have my youtube/gmail account banned.

If you make a new account, they'll only ban that one. I've been permanently banned from Reddit for really dumb reasons more times than I can count. The first time, I was sad. Now, I know it's a war between users and admins, and an individual account isn't worth very much.

Reddit bans are one thing, but your Gmail/Google Drive account getting banned? Not worth it, not over fucking Youtube ads. Remember, you don't have any recourse against Google bans.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by immibis »

endgame wrote: post #30
lolinder wrote: post #17

On January 18 2012, Wikipedia went black to draw attention to SOPA [0], a bill they described as one that "could fatally damage the free and open Internet". Since then, we've seen a slow and steady march in the direction we all dreaded. Country after country has decided that they have the right to block content on the "free and open Internet", and business after business (even those who joined the SOPA protests) has…

> Have governments become more authoritarian? Judging by the various misinformation legislation they're rushing to adopt, yes. The free internet said too many things that powerful people didn't like. An Australian example: https://x.com/SenatorRennick/status/1834455727764869593#m

Misinformation is an actual problem, so I don't know what you expect the government to do about it.

Nothing at all? We saw how that idea worked out in the USA.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by Symbiote »

jvdvegt wrote: post #231
riehwvfbk wrote: post #220

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You must have missed the other news this week. Linux has joined the dark side too. Banning people based on nationality is certainly against freedom and any kind of ethics worthy of being called that.

I missed it, apparently. Link?

They banned people employed by sanctioned organisations from being maintainers. This one worked for a company making hardware for the Russian military.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41932225

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