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Bluesky Is Not Decentralized

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Re: Bluesky Is Not Decentralized

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Post by pfraze »

Read this: https://atproto.com/articles/atproto-for-distsys-engineers

AT Protocol works like the Web, where each user is a website and each application is a search engine. The apps crawl the network of hosts and aggregate activity. We have over 100 outside hosts and at least 3 aggregating apps out there. It’s a different model than ActivityPub, which is more akin to email.

We never said no algorithm. I don’t know where that meme comes from. We have an open system for algorithms, which we and 3p devs can operate. We have a default algorithm for every user called Discover. It was one of our main concerns to have an answer to algorithms in a decentralized network.

For DID PLC, the likely solution is to move the registry into a nonprofit which will maintain it, similar to ICANN. We also support the Web DID method, and if folks like this remain concerned we’re open to other DID methods. It’s important, but roughly similar to DNS or TLS issuers; supporting infra to the application network.

Re: Bluesky Is Not Decentralized

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Post by colesantiago »

Unfortunately close to nobody on or has moved to Bluesky cares about it being decentralized, they just want another Twitter that just works.

Most of the people on Bluesky that have moved are artists, academics, writers and creative folks that don't care about tech.

If they did care about decentralization they would be all going to Mastodon right now, but there isn't any traction there in the millions.

Re: Bluesky Is Not Decentralized

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Post by pfraze »

colesantiago wrote: post #4

Unfortunately close to nobody on or has moved to Bluesky cares about it being decentralized, they just want another Twitter that just works. Most of the people on Bluesky that have moved are artists, academics, writers and creative folks that don't care about tech. If they did care about decentralization they would be all going to Mastodon right now, but there isn't any traction there in the millions.

I’m not sure that’s true. We have a lot of people who are invested in the protocol and the technology. I post threads about it periodically, and people are pretty engaged & excited: https://bsky.app/profile/pfrazee.com/post/3l6xwi52zti2y

Re: Bluesky Is Not Decentralized

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Post by threeseed »

colesantiago wrote: post #4

Unfortunately close to nobody on or has moved to Bluesky cares about it being decentralized, they just want another Twitter that just works. Most of the people on Bluesky that have moved are artists, academics, writers and creative folks that don't care about tech. If they did care about decentralization they would be all going to Mastodon right now, but there isn't any traction there in the millions.

Bluesky = 13m users, Mastodon = 9m users.

Bluesky hasn't released what their DAU/MAUs are but Mastodon's aren't that bad.

https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2024-series-a https://mastodon-analytics.com

Re: Bluesky Is Not Decentralized

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Post by d1sxeyes »

threeseed wrote: post #6

Not sure how it is better than Threads. At least Meta is delivering on their promise to integrate with Mastodon and move us closer to decentralised social networks.

I mean, Meta’s ActivityPub integration is one-way on public profiles. I think even Facebook used to allow you to get RSS feeds of your friends’ updates in the early days. Threads’s lip-service towards AP is barely better than that.
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