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Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by haccount »

Sabinus wrote: post #171
zmgsabst wrote: post #58

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Tell that to the courts, I guess. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/business/media/hunter-bid... Excerpt: > The laptop and some of its contents played a visible role in federal prosecutors’ case against the president’s son, who was charged with lying on a firearm application in 2018 by not disclosing his drug use. A prosecutor briefly held up the laptop before the jury in Delaware, and an F.B.I. agent later testifie…

Incredible that in this comment thread there are suggestions the Biden government is fascist, even though Biden allowed his son to be prosecuted but if the reverse happened Trump would obviously interfere.

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Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by dirtyhippiefree »

ivewonyoung wrote: post #87
selimthegrim wrote: post #41

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The chain of custody issues alone render the laptop story incredible

To add to the sibling comment about the courts, from Wiki: > Starting in 2021, news outlets began to authenticate some of the contents of the laptop. In 2021, Politico verified two key emails used in the Post's initial reporting by cross-referencing emails with other datasets and contacting their recipients. CBS News published a forensic analysis which examined a "clean" copy of the data obtained directly from Mac Is…

This whole thing is sounding alot like the one about Bill Murray, the son of famous atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair (not the famous one from SNL).

His mom really influenced his behavior, so it has to be a conspiracy: William J. Murray III is an American Baptist minister, and social conservative lobbyist. Murray serves as the chairman of the Religious Freedom Coalition, a non-profit organization in Washington, D.C. that lobbies Congress on issues related to aiding Christians in Islamic and Communist countries.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by aaplok »

bitexploder wrote: post #108
ggm wrote: post #82

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Dividing the world into normies and others is a very odd way to characterise widespread adoption of anything. I hesitate to use the neckbeard word, but it's got overtones. There are as many usefully curated sites, as sites where state actors curate content to hide the reptile led barcode truth from the normies.

The nomenclature could use some polish, but on HN we know they mean ability to bypass technological restrictions .

I am probably not part of the "we" you are talking about, but I had no idea "normie" means that, and I couldn't infer it from the comment. In fact I inferred a completely wrong meaning from that comment (something like "unenlightened").

Isn't "normie" a pejorative word (genuine question)?

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by oliwarner »

riffraff wrote: post #180
chris_wot wrote: post #163

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If adblockers have a huge amount of access, then consider how much access ads themselves have. uBlock Origin is open source.

They have less access? When I visit my national healthcare website extensions can look at my traffic, but there are no ads. I'm not saying ad blockers are bad, but it's not like we didn't have extensions being subverted in the past.

You're taking about access you're afraid an extension might be exploited to expose versus ad networks and social media plugins that are known to expose.

I'll take the potential bogeyman over the real one, thanks.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by card_zero »

t2o3423423243 wrote: post #113

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The West Indies aren't India. Is this a cover-up, part of a scheme to distort perceptions? No, it's an artifact of history. Turkeys aren't from Turkey (officially "Türkiye"). But birds from south of the Sahara that resemble turkeys were at one time sold to Western Europe via Turkey. Then the name was transferred to large American birds, inaccurately, because they were you know what I mean, Turkeys. Similarly, Arabic numerals (which undeniably passed through Arabic) were you know what I mean, Arabic numbers instead of people attempting to deliver detailed history lessons mid-conversation. There was no deliberate or even subconscious attempt to impugn any foreign country. Well, no specific attempt. No more than usual. It was just people persistently getting the names of things wrong, like they always will.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by air3y »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #153
typewithrhythm wrote: post #61

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As more normies got on the web more of it becomes about how to herd them. In the early days there was less gain from authoritarian actions, because you are more likely to be resisted by the users of any service. The current users don't know how to bypass restrictions, and are generally more numerous. Making authoritarian actions more valuable. Unfortunately this leads to previously useful sites declining.

As a wikipedia contributor (aroound 10-13 year old account) but not really serious, i have no kind words for wikipedia. The trolling and brigading is alive and well there. Thats the reason i stopped contributing. As my name would suggest, I live in a hotly contested part of the world and I have hundreds of pages in my watchlist. The amount of "bjp it cell" work they put in to portray their world view on Wikipedia is…

Without the full details of the edit war you were involved in, the scenario seems to be clash between your "world view" and those who reversed your edits. From your username, being from a region where a successful genocide/ethnic cleansing of a minority religious group was conducted by the majority local population only a couple of decades back, the possibility of your edits being controversial to others not necessarily the alleged "BJP it cell" is there.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by ggm »

aaplok wrote: post #193
bitexploder wrote: post #108

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The nomenclature could use some polish, but on HN we know they mean ability to bypass technological restrictions .

I am probably not part of the "we" you are talking about, but I had no idea "normie" means that, and I couldn't infer it from the comment. In fact I inferred a completely wrong meaning from that comment (something like "unenlightened"). Isn't "normie" a pejorative word (genuine question)?

This was the basis of my response too. It's almost never said by people in contexts where it's not pejorative, to my understanding. It's a staple of incels and the elite Mensa types. It dismisses the average lived experience because iamveryspecial.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by verisimi »

lolinder wrote: post #17

On January 18 2012, Wikipedia went black to draw attention to SOPA [0], a bill they described as one that "could fatally damage the free and open Internet". Since then, we've seen a slow and steady march in the direction we all dreaded. Country after country has decided that they have the right to block content on the "free and open Internet", and business after business (even those who joined the SOPA protests) has…

> Have governments become more authoritarian?

They were always like this. 20 years of state funded education doesn't go into depth on this topic though. 1984 is a warning about a possible future tyranny, right?

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by botanical »

Slowly, more citizen rights are being eroded by so-called democratic countries by weaponising legislation to get what the few elite in government want.

Another example was US sanctions against Russia, which led to the Linux kernel maintainers removing Russians. Not all Russians support or endorse the war criminal Putin. Are we going to see Western-allied countries like Apartheid Israel also sanctioned? Probably not. Legislation should not be used as a weapon to promote state propaganda.

Are we really going to block freely-available content on the internet? It seems like decentralisation is key to citizen liberty divorced from any one country's legislation.

Re: Wikipedia article blocked worldwide by Delhi high court

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Post by astrobe_ »

aaplok wrote: post #193
bitexploder wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The nomenclature could use some polish, but on HN we know they mean ability to bypass technological restrictions .

I am probably not part of the "we" you are talking about, but I had no idea "normie" means that, and I couldn't infer it from the comment. In fact I inferred a completely wrong meaning from that comment (something like "unenlightened"). Isn't "normie" a pejorative word (genuine question)?

> Isn't "normie" a pejorative word (genuine question)?

It depends on the context. It can be a synonym for "average" (mostly neutral) or "mediocre" (pejorative).

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