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Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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One candidate has proposed a day of violence and given indications they consider “anyone who disagrees with me” as an “enemy within”. I don’t think they have talked about televised tribunals, and they also have a … tenuous … relationship with the truth or following through on promises (even when baselines against normal “politician lie rate”)

the genocide doesn't give you any form of perspective?

What genocide?

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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What do you mean by 'unbalanced'? "Unstable" or "biased"? The US seems really unstable right now. It is like a ever growing political cacophony. And blaming the "other side" for a mutual problem seems silly for an external observer. The bad faith tone is making the caricatures real by moving people further from each other and entrenching distinctive extremes as ingroup markers. E.g. I feel that during the pandemic su…

What I mean by "unbalanced" is that the US situation is not about small details and very minute distinctions. People's opinions are divided on very basic and fundamental issues, there are very radical behaviours and really big swings of money. Trying to keep a "the truth is in the middle" attitude is unethical. I think the main issue becomes "bad faith", and we're back to the credibility issue. IMHO discourse should…

> Trying to keep a "the truth is in the middle" attitude is unethical.

It is illogical too. In a simple question of "little" and "much" the truth could be "even smaller" and "way bigger than much".

> I think the main issue becomes "bad faith"

Ye I think I agree here about it being the main concern. Bad faith accusation, debates etc seem to radicalize the supporters of the accused. I think you make the caricature real at some point when supporters start to believe the misconception.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Honestly it’s surprising to me that people really think that the news side of a media company operates with complete autonomy from the business side. They might claim it exists but that’s a fallacy. I worked at a major daily newspaper 30 years ago and I personally know of two cases in my short tenure there where news stories were killed because they didn’t want to piss off important advertisers. I am also aware of a…

We didn't give freedom of the press to protect businesses from government scrutiny. We did it to keep free information flowing. There's definitely some very hard and frank questions we need to ask if free information decides to focus on profits over communication.

(correction: no one "gave" press freedom. instead it is protected against government overreach. just like any other free speech. thank you.)

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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You seem to be implying that he made a decision based on other business interests, against those of the Post, but there is no support for that in the article. Do you have a source which describes this motive? It seems like not endorsing candidates might be good for the Washington Post's business, by improving its perceived impartiality. In addition to this, the WaPo seems to have spent much of its history not endorsi…

While you may not take this as proof it affected this exact decision, it's hard to ignore it as a possible reason. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/10/amazon-wants-to-depose-presi...

Updates...

JEDI was cancelled (article also mentions results of investigations into Amazon's claims): https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/06/pentagon-cancels-10-billion-...

The lawsuit got tossed because it didn't matter any more: https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-judge-ends-amazo...

The replacement program somehow includes all three of the usual suspects, plus Oracle: https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/323937...

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Endorsements are published by the editorial section which is specifically separated from the rest of the newspaper so to not undermine the neutrality of the journalism in the other sections. Opinion and analysis has always been part of news publications, and plays an accepted role in adding layers of interpretation onto the raw "facts" that is crucial in making those facts interpretable by readers who aren't expert i…

The idea that editorial team has some kind of expertise, unavailable to general population, that allows them ecxlusive ability to properly understand current events, seems to have no factual support at all. They are professionals in giving their opinions, it doesn't make their opinions be better that anybody else's. Experience suggests they are usually worse.

That would seem to negate the entire point of any editorial column then, right? If we don't care about their opinion, what's the point of reading in the first place?

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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I'm sure you're mostly right, but there are no doubt a few still on the fence, which can only either be people who have not been exposed to the truth about Trump (e.g. people who only watch Trump sane-washed sources like Fox), or republicans who are well aware of the danger he poses, but are having a hard time accepting that the responsible thing to do is vote against him. For the few that are still on the fence, the…

I haven’t decided myself. My vote doesn’t especially matter because of the state I live in but I do like to vote as an experience. It’s not that I particularly like Trump as an individual (quite the opposite), but Harris is just very unappealing to me from a policy standpoint. I do think that the Hitler comparison undermines any point you are trying to make so maybe tone it down a bit.

Given that Trump keeps a copy of Mein Kampf on his bedside table, has said that he wants generals as loyal to him personally (not to the country/constitution) as Hitler's, has said that Hitler did some good things... Uses language from Hitler such as dehumanizing immigrants as not human, talks about the "enemy within"... It seems that Hitler is in fact exactly who we should be talking about when discussing Trump, and exactly the "danger to the country" that Trump represents that Gen.Miller and Gen.Kelly are concerned about.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Really this is a lesson in why the corporate news model is doomed to fail. Upping my contributions to serious investigative journalist organizations like ProPublica

I disagree. This is the exception rather than the rule. The more corporate, the more likely to give the people what they want.

How do you square that with social media being the source of news for many?

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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post #324

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You seem to be implying that he made a decision based on other business interests, against those of the Post, but there is no support for that in the article. Do you have a source which describes this motive? It seems like not endorsing candidates might be good for the Washington Post's business, by improving its perceived impartiality. In addition to this, the WaPo seems to have spent much of its history not endorsi…

While you may not take this as proof it affected this exact decision, it's hard to ignore it as a possible reason. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/10/amazon-wants-to-depose-presi...

Bezos wants to help elect someone who (his lawyers allege) killed a gov contract favourable to his own business? Or did I misread your comment.
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