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We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by tbrownaw »

valbaca wrote: post #84
jessriedel wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the last sentence. If the machines are frequently broken, that damages the Macdonald's brand in the consumer's eyes. And if the franchisee's are paying unnecessary costs, making a Macdonald's franchise less lucrative for the owner-operator, that will lead to fewer franchises renewals and new franchises in the future.

> If the machines are frequently broken, that damages the Macdonald's brand in the consumer's eyes. They are and it doesn't matter. You don't go to McD for the ice cream. It's been a running joke for decades how they're always broken.

> You don't go to McD for the ice cream.

Yeah. 'cause they don't have any 'cause the machine's broken.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by chongli »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #92
edm0nd wrote: post #81

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Perhaps because the environment the ice cream machines create are the most friendly to bacteria and other things that cause the most issues?

Then why does the Frosty machine always work at Wendy's? That's made by Taylor too.

The Wendy's frosty machine doesn't have the same automatic cleaning cycle and pasteurization feature that the McDonald's ice cream machine has. Thus Wendy's employees need to tear the machine down and clean it by hand, a long and tedious process.

The whole reason McDonald's wanted this machine was to reduce training costs and labour. However, the machine does need to be operated correctly or it simply shuts down.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by chongli »

Waterluvian wrote: post #56

15%?! Is this a uniquely American thing because I can’t remember ever having a “sorry our machine is down” in Ontario.

It correlates with demand. These things go down quickly during peak demand because they can't maintain cold temps. You'll often see this during summer heatwaves as people flock to drive-thrus to grab some ice cream!

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by singron »

lysace wrote: post #79

Bad headline. No, they can't. They are now allowed to, but they don't have the actual ability to do so. Clickbait of the weirdest kind - the totally unnecessary one. They could have gone with more truthful "We're now allowed to" with the same amount of impact... right?

Yeah this was weird. You usually expect this from a newspaper where the editor chooses an inaccurate headline, but this is iFixit? The actual text of the article points out that just about every McDonalds franchise will be unaffected and have equally broken ice cream machines, which is why it's so weird that they contradict that in the headline.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

#105

Post by delroth »

bebrbrhrj wrote: post #54
greensh wrote: post #15

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from the article: > The ruling doesn’t change the underlying statute making it illegal to share or sell tools that bypass software locks. I think this also includes sharing code.

Is it trite to ask if this is blocking free speech?

This has recently been challenged in courts and rejected: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/08/federal-appeals-court-...

> Integral to the Court’s decision was the conclusion that Section 1201’s ban on circumvention of access restrictions is a regulation of “conduct” rather than “speech.”

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by Aloha »

chongli wrote: post #102
entropicdrifter wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why does the Frosty machine always work at Wendy's? That's made by Taylor too.

The Wendy's frosty machine doesn't have the same automatic cleaning cycle and pasteurization feature that the McDonald's ice cream machine has. Thus Wendy's employees need to tear the machine down and clean it by hand, a long and tedious process. The whole reason McDonald's wanted this machine was to reduce training costs and labour. However, the machine does need to be operated correctly or it simply shuts down.

As someone who has cleaned a soft serve machine, its not really long or tedious.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by amscanne »

kelnos wrote: post #97
wwweston wrote: post #42

Note this part: > This time, the FTC and DOJ even weighed in to support our petition. See also: https://www.ifixit.com/News/92942/the-ftc-and-doj-call-for-i... Elections matter.

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Prepare to have your mind blown: https://www.techdirt.com/2018/07/11/shocker-dojs-computer-cr...

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

#108

Post by BadHumans »

kelnos wrote: post #94
BadHumans wrote: post #88

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No one has put forth a good argument about why I don't need copyright.

No one should have to. If we're talking about putting/maintaining restrictions on people, the onus should be on the proponents to put forth a good argument why we need it.

Not when you are the one trying to change the status quo. Regardless of what you believe, if you want to change the default you need to explain to people why it should change. A self-righteous stance like yours will change nothing.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by userbinator »

kelnos wrote: post #97
wwweston wrote: post #42

Note this part: > This time, the FTC and DOJ even weighed in to support our petition. See also: https://www.ifixit.com/News/92942/the-ftc-and-doj-call-for-i... Elections matter.

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Guess how the majority of farmers and rural folk wanting to fix their own equipment are leaning politically. Also the automotive aftermarket.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by qingcharles »

yakz wrote: post #75
14 wrote: post #52

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The days of cheap McDonald’s is long gone. I can get a meal served at a sit down cafe for about the same price now days.

McDonald’s pricing is complicated. You can still get cheap McDonald’s, but it requires giving them something in return (e.g. information about you).

Indeed, you can practically eat for free regularly at McD's if you use the app.
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