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Elon Musk's Conversations with Vladimir Putin
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Re: Elon Musk's Conversations with Vladimir Putin
#12Non-paywalled link
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/elon-musk-s-secret...
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#13>At one point, Putin asked the billionaire to avoid activating his Starlink satellite internet service over Taiwan as a favor to Chinese leader Xi Jinping, said two people briefed on the request. uh. holy s--t!
The word for this is treason. Arrest him, strip him of his assets, revoke his citizenship, and put him on trial with the death penalty on the table.
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#14Treason season started early.
Under US law, "treason" means either 1) trying to overthrow the government or 2) providing "aid and comfort" to enemies in war. The last time I checked, the US has not declared war with Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_Sta...
No one said anything about US law specifically (which wouldn't apply to Musk anyway in this regard), or any kind of law.
One can also read it as: "moral treason", betrayal, etc. Not for talking with the guy, per se. But at the moment, if anyone is talking with Putin, it should be for one purpose only: to end the war -- and with that explicit framework in mind. Not business as usual of any kind.
And we shouldn't be expected to believe that they talked about “space as well as current and future technologies" in any case.
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#15That puts this story in a new light.
"In October 2023, Musk shared a meme to his millions of followers" that according to leaked documents obtained by a number of European media outlets "was put together by none other than the Social Design Agency" -- a Moscow-based group accused by the U.S. of orchestrating a "persistent foreign malign influence campaign" on behalf of the Kremlin.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-shared-putin-propaga...
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Under US law, "treason" means either 1) trying to overthrow the government or 2) providing "aid and comfort" to enemies in war. The last time I checked, the US has not declared war with Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_Sta...
No one said anything about US law specifically (which wouldn't apply to Musk anyway in this regard), or any kind of law. One can also read it as: "moral treason", betrayal, etc. Not for talking with the guy, per se. But at the moment, if anyone is talking with Putin, it should be for one purpose only: to end the war -- and with that explicit framework in mind. Not business as usual of any kind. And we shouldn't be ex…
On the contrary, in this very comment section posters have already called for Musk to be put on trial and possibly executed for treason. That doesn't sound very metaphorical...
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#17Speed running being Henry Ford any %.
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#18Re: Elon Musk's Conversations with Vladimir Putin
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one said anything about US law specifically (which wouldn't apply to Musk anyway in this regard), or any kind of law. One can also read it as: "moral treason", betrayal, etc. Not for talking with the guy, per se. But at the moment, if anyone is talking with Putin, it should be for one purpose only: to end the war -- and with that explicit framework in mind. Not business as usual of any kind. And we shouldn't be ex…
On the contrary, in this very comment section posters have already called for Musk to be put on trial and possibly executed for treason. That doesn't sound very metaphorical...
I see one such comment, but either way: I meant of course "no one" not posting the type of comment you'd be likely to ignore anyway.
Re: Elon Musk's Conversations with Vladimir Putin
#20Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason. [1]
To "adhere" means to support or be loyal to. In this context, it refers to someone aligning themselves with the enemies of the U.S., either by joining them or providing help and resources, such as intelligence, weapons, or logistical support.
[1] https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?edition=prelim&path=%2Fp...