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Quit Social Media (2016)

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Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

#11

Post by ClassyJacket »

benjaminwootton wrote: post #5

Isn’t it on the decline yet? Facebook is for boomers. Twitter is weird and we all realised how pointless it is to spend time falling out on there. Instagram feels a bit long in the tooth. LinkedIn is a parody of itself. Reddit feels like it’s growing but I think that avoids the worst of social media. TikTok and YouTube shorts seem popular but aren’t really social media. It’s just time wasting junk. All in all, social…

I don't know how you can possibly say TikTok isn't social media. That seems like a rather absurd claim. What's your justification?

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

#12

Post by solomonb »

He states:

> What the market values is the ability to produce things that are rare and are valuable.

> what the market dismisses are activities that are easy to replicate and produce a small amount of value. Well social media use is the epitome of an easy to replicate activity that does not produce a lot of value [...] by definition the market is not going to give those activieis a lot of value [...]."

Yet in the years since this TEDx talk we have seen the rise of influencer and streamer celebrities who have gained an immense amount of wealth and power.

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

#13

Post by poppycock »

Programmers (cs students, "engineers") are one of the most pompous group of people who think their ability to #include gives them some special ability to speak about efficiency, physics, math (other than your run of the mill discrete or remedial linear algebra) or pretty much any other topic on the face of the Earth.

Don't worry about your active Facebook account. People who make it a point to signal otherwise are just people who have no one in their personal lives to connect with (e.g. nieces, nephews, family, friends). They are outliers not the rule.

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

#14

Post by DiggyJohnson »

Kye wrote: post #9

(2016) Especially important because most of his commentary focuses on the dominant social media paradigm of the time. Mastodon barely existed when this post went live, Mike Masnick was years from writing the paper that inspired Bluesky[0], and it would be strange if someone whose whole thing is getting away from social media kept up on new developments. This post is an interesting historical artifact, but shouldn't b…

Mastodon and Bluesky are still such minor players (even though I enjoy these projects and am optimistic about their future) that I don’t see anywhere where this doesn’t pass for contemporary commentary.

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

#15

Post by throw_pm23 »

eterm wrote: post #10
jjordan wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter/X is fantastic for breaking news. For example during the first assassination attempt you would find new details on there that would then appear on MSM newscasts one to two hours later. It also helps immensely to curate lists of interests to help filter out the noise and politics.

How is your life improved by getting that news minute by minute instead of an hour, or even a day, later?

or indeed, not at all? :)

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

#16

Post by SimianSci »

jjordan wrote: post #8
benjaminwootton wrote: post #5

Isn’t it on the decline yet? Facebook is for boomers. Twitter is weird and we all realised how pointless it is to spend time falling out on there. Instagram feels a bit long in the tooth. LinkedIn is a parody of itself. Reddit feels like it’s growing but I think that avoids the worst of social media. TikTok and YouTube shorts seem popular but aren’t really social media. It’s just time wasting junk. All in all, social…

Twitter/X is fantastic for breaking news. For example during the first assassination attempt you would find new details on there that would then appear on MSM newscasts one to two hours later. It also helps immensely to curate lists of interests to help filter out the noise and politics.

There is a marked difference between "Breaking new developments" and misinformation being spread to juice engagement.

Nobody should pretend that Twitter is a place where accurate information travels at light speed. It is in desperate need of moderation and being run by a man with clear monetary incentive to mislead the public.

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

#17

Post by benjaminwootton »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #11
benjaminwootton wrote: post #5

Isn’t it on the decline yet? Facebook is for boomers. Twitter is weird and we all realised how pointless it is to spend time falling out on there. Instagram feels a bit long in the tooth. LinkedIn is a parody of itself. Reddit feels like it’s growing but I think that avoids the worst of social media. TikTok and YouTube shorts seem popular but aren’t really social media. It’s just time wasting junk. All in all, social…

I don't know how you can possibly say TikTok isn't social media. That seems like a rather absurd claim. What's your justification?

I haven’t used it much but I think the main feed is very algorithmic, so you swipe for your dopamine without paying much attention to the profile. Because of that it’s not really tied to your identity in quite the same way.

It also seems quite professionalised in that the big content producers fill the feed.

There’s also something about it being video which makes it feel harmful but in a different way than a text based platform.

I tend to think of TikTok as more of an entertainment platform rather than peer to peer social media.

I’m not the target audience though so could be wide of the mark!

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

#18

Post by [deleted] »

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #14
Kye wrote: post #9

(2016) Especially important because most of his commentary focuses on the dominant social media paradigm of the time. Mastodon barely existed when this post went live, Mike Masnick was years from writing the paper that inspired Bluesky[0], and it would be strange if someone whose whole thing is getting away from social media kept up on new developments. This post is an interesting historical artifact, but shouldn't b…

Mastodon and Bluesky are still such minor players (even though I enjoy these projects and am optimistic about their future) that I don’t see anywhere where this doesn’t pass for contemporary commentary.

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Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by poppycock »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #11
benjaminwootton wrote: post #5

Isn’t it on the decline yet? Facebook is for boomers. Twitter is weird and we all realised how pointless it is to spend time falling out on there. Instagram feels a bit long in the tooth. LinkedIn is a parody of itself. Reddit feels like it’s growing but I think that avoids the worst of social media. TikTok and YouTube shorts seem popular but aren’t really social media. It’s just time wasting junk. All in all, social…

I don't know how you can possibly say TikTok isn't social media. That seems like a rather absurd claim. What's your justification?

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Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by ziddoap »

poppycock wrote: post #13

Programmers (cs students, "engineers") are one of the most pompous group of people who think their ability to #include gives them some special ability to speak about efficiency, physics, math (other than your run of the mill discrete or remedial linear algebra) or pretty much any other topic on the face of the Earth. Don't worry about your active Facebook account. People who make it a point to signal otherwise are ju…

>People who make it a point to signal otherwise are just people who have no one in their personal lives to connect with (e.g. nieces, nephews, family, friends).

What credentials do you hold to make this claim? It better not be a CS degree.

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