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Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by thatfunkymunki »

scblzn wrote: post #76

However, be careful with the terms of non-commercial usage (Enforced heavy metrics) "You agree that the product will send usage data to validate your compliance with the license terms and anonymous feature usage statistics..." "The information collected under Sections 4.1. and 4.2. may include but is not limited to frameworks, file templates used in the Product, actions invoked, and other interactions with the Produc…

https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/po...

Not just that, they will do some yucky things to exfiltrate data from your network to enforce this.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by wiseowise »

mattferderer wrote: post #5

As a paying subscriber I love this move for the .NET community. As a .NET dev for many years, I've noticed there have been periods of time where either Visual Studio or Rider was far better than the other. Currently, Rider is much better. Hopefully this encourages more people to try out C# & F#. Both fantastic languages. - Edit - Looks like Webstorm (JS/TS editor) is also free now.

> - Edit - Looks like Webstorm (JS/TS editor) is also free now.

Wow. VSCode finally got them, it seems.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by NoboruWataya »

talldayo wrote: post #125
terminalbraid wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I go pretty heavy on Jetbrains products, but they have stirred up the dev community a few times chasing things seen as investor friendly. In particular when they shoved their AI plugin as a required plugin with carried an obnoxious upsell nag. In general they've also spread themselves out across a ridiculous number of products where I'd prefer if they just focused on making their current stuff work (and not discontin…

They also pulled the plug on free support for their Rust plugin which really upset me. Jetbrains is intent on making you pay before you get IDE functionality; I'd rather use VS Code or Zed these days.

RustRover is free for non-commercial use though?

I liked the look of Zed when I first tried it out, but I read that it seems to have a strong cloud/AI focus which I don't want or need. I have started investing a bit of time in getting Vim working with all the bells and whistles and now it's a decent fallback when I can't use a JetBrains IDE for whatever reason.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by withinboredom »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #52
mattferderer wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VS Code is really good at certain things but it struggles on larger projects & doesn't have near the advanced features. It's a very good choice though for a lot of projects. It's also a great way to try out C#. It has some amazing extensions for certain tasks too.

VSC feels pretty capable in my books. We have a mono-repo with 100k lines of C# in 8 projects, 40k lines of Vue SFCs in 2 workspaces, 39k lines of TypeScript, 23k lines of Astro. No issues at all running it on a 2021 14" MacBook Pro with only 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD while also running multiple Docker containers for Postgres, Neo4j, Memcached, and LocalStack. My take is that folks should not underestimate VSC; there ar…

100k loc is not big. That’s a small-medium sized project.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by BaculumMeumEst »

sbrother wrote: post #117
terminalbraid wrote: post #3

This is pretty huge all around, especially with Microsoft discontinuing Visual Studio for Mac. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022... I'd also like to note the great integration Rider has with Godot and Unity for game development.

What does "noncommercial use" mean in this context though? These are tools for work - is the idea that students can use them for free and then will start paying once they finish school?

It means a wink, a nod, and perhaps a nudge nudge.

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Post by cypressious »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #140
sbrother wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does "noncommercial use" mean in this context though? These are tools for work - is the idea that students can use them for free and then will start paying once they finish school?

Game jams, releasing game for free- that makes up a whole lot. Curious where the line is if you're using it during a YouTube video that you have a Patreon for etc. I think most games built never make money.

It's explicitly allowed to be used for content creation.

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Post by elAhmo »

withinboredom wrote: post #155
CharlieDigital wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VSC feels pretty capable in my books. We have a mono-repo with 100k lines of C# in 8 projects, 40k lines of Vue SFCs in 2 workspaces, 39k lines of TypeScript, 23k lines of Astro. No issues at all running it on a 2021 14" MacBook Pro with only 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD while also running multiple Docker containers for Postgres, Neo4j, Memcached, and LocalStack. My take is that folks should not underestimate VSC; there ar…

100k loc is not big. That’s a small-medium sized project.

100k lines of code is definitely big and by no means a small project.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by CharlieDigital »

withinboredom wrote: post #155
CharlieDigital wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VSC feels pretty capable in my books. We have a mono-repo with 100k lines of C# in 8 projects, 40k lines of Vue SFCs in 2 workspaces, 39k lines of TypeScript, 23k lines of Astro. No issues at all running it on a 2021 14" MacBook Pro with only 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD while also running multiple Docker containers for Postgres, Neo4j, Memcached, and LocalStack. My take is that folks should not underestimate VSC; there ar…

100k loc is not big. That’s a small-medium sized project.

It's not an all C# project; C# only comprises the backend.

All in, the mono-repo is somewhere over 250k SLOC with mixed languages (Vue SFC, TS, Astro, JSX, shell). So when VSC is loaded, it's not only handling C#, but also everything else.

Point is that VSC is more than capable of handling production scale, multi-language workspaces even on 2021 hardware with only 16GB of RAM.

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Post by martypitt »

ezekg wrote: post #146
9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #99

JetBrains licenses are one of the few software licenses that I pay for. Their IDEs have the features I need while keeping the UI from getting in the way.

I really, really wanted to like and use their IDEs (esp their Ruby 'intellisense' or w/e), but the lack of popular theme support kind of killed it for me. I wanted my IDE to look like my VSCode editor, but, at least a few years ago, that wasn't really possible since iirc there were only a handful of theme options.

They revamped the IDE a while back, it now feels much more VSCode-esque.

Theming has moved on a fair bit too...

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