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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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As a paying subscriber I love this move for the .NET community. As a .NET dev for many years, I've noticed there have been periods of time where either Visual Studio or Rider was far better than the other. Currently, Rider is much better. Hopefully this encourages more people to try out C# & F#. Both fantastic languages. - Edit - Looks like Webstorm (JS/TS editor) is also free now.

What is the difference between Rider and Resharper?

VS + Resharper is painfully slow. Rider is refreshingly fast.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100k lines of C# in 8 projects, 40k lines of Vue SFCs in 2 workspaces, 39k lines of TypeScript in a monorepo. I use it every day on a 2021 M1 MacBook Pro 16GB/512GB. Works completely fine to the extent that I just let my Rider license lapse.

Well, perhaps anyone who’s thinking about it can do their own research in /r/vscode and read about how much people love c# dev kit. TLDR; it’s not just me. I’m glad you like it and have found a workflow that works for you. I think you’re crazy.

My point isn't that "people shouldn't use Rider"; I myself had a Rider license and it's a GREAT IDE.

My point is "you shouldn't skip C# because you think you need a license for an IDE to be use it professionally".

Devs who are already using VSC for doing front-end and want to try full stack can absolutely do heavy lifting in VSC.

I let my license lapse not because Rider wasn't a great IDE, but because VSC is fully capable for backend and fullstack work.

    > I think you're crazy
I'll take that as a compliment :D. Even back in 2021 when I was invited to present at the Azure Serverless Conf[0], I chose VSC for my session to showcase that anyone could start developing .NET without expensive licenses (a common myth).

[0] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/azure-serverless-con...

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huge majority of OSS developers (especially for big projects) are paid for their opensource work too.

The 2024 Tidelift state of the open source maintainer report ( https://explore.tidelift.com/2024-survey ) disagrees. And that is probably the most comprehensive one that actually favors large projects, because of Tidelift business model. > The portion of respondents who reported they are unpaid hobbyists remains at 60 percent, the same as in last year's survey. Only 12% checked "I'm a semi-professional maintainer, an…

The site keeps shoving a data colleciton popup in my face so I can't read it - what's the sample/methodology for a "maintainer" here? Do they normalize against the usage of their output projects at all?

Are those projects the size of Jetbrains IDEs - e.g. Linux kernel, ffmpeg, VIM, Emacs, etc. ?

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

#104
post #6

What an amazing accomplishment JetBrains has done. It's a bootstrapped, European company, doing $400M+ annually in revenue selling to developers (who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay). https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/annualreport-2023/

They are a russian company. Russians despite their evil empire are smart and capable people.

It was founded by russian nationals but the company is formally czech and is more connected to the west than to Russia.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

#105
post #81

As a paying subscriber I love this move for the .NET community. As a .NET dev for many years, I've noticed there have been periods of time where either Visual Studio or Rider was far better than the other. Currently, Rider is much better. Hopefully this encourages more people to try out C# & F#. Both fantastic languages. - Edit - Looks like Webstorm (JS/TS editor) is also free now.

What is the difference between Rider and Resharper?

Rider is an IDE that replaces Visual Studio and includes the resharper engine built in.

Resharper is a plug-in that is hosted by Visual Studio.

Resharper in Rider is pretty much the same as in VS, but in Rider it is native and always feels snappier to me.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

#106
post #6

What an amazing accomplishment JetBrains has done. It's a bootstrapped, European company, doing $400M+ annually in revenue selling to developers (who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay). https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/annualreport-2023/

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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The design of the yellow/black cells holding language/tech tripped me out for a sec, on my laptop they're all crooked at the top but align themselves after a certain amount of scroll. Thought I was seeing an optical illusion but a refresh shows that it's not. I don't think this was intentional.

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

#108
post #6

What an amazing accomplishment JetBrains has done. It's a bootstrapped, European company, doing $400M+ annually in revenue selling to developers (who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay). https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/annualreport-2023/

They are a russian company. Russians despite their evil empire are smart and capable people.

Czech

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JetBrains

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

#109

I wish Jetbrains could save me from Xcode. Please.

Same. Discontinuing AppCode was genuinely disappointing to me. Not sure if you can still download it, but it definitely hasn't seen a new major release since the 2023 version.

Apparently, not enough people thought like you. [0]

> While we’ve had some growth in terms of adoption, we didn’t reach the market share we had hoped for. We believe that the time has come to sunset the product and focus our efforts in other directions.

[0] https://blog.jetbrains.com/appcode/2022/12/appcode-2022-3-re...

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This company has always impressed me from the get-go. I started my journey with IntelliJ, and it was the best IDE I ever put my hands on. And ever since then, I kept using their other IDEs as well. Somehow VS Code tried to swing me away from it, but it just never ever came close to whatever JetBrains could offer. And it's only going to keep getting better. It's great that it's now free for non-commercial usage. And w…

I suspect that JetBrains is trying to respond to the fact that Microsoft gives VSCode away for free and that's likely what is spurring the massive adoption of VSCode. A colleague of mine at work, who is almost retirement age now and has 10+ years on me in the industry told me that the ONLY reason he uses VSCode is because it's free. I'm with you, there are IntelliJ features (particularly the refactoring features that…

>> I suspect that JetBrains is trying to respond to the fact that Microsoft gives VSCode away for free and that's likely what is spurring the massive adoption of VSCode.

This is exactly the reason. When people use both VSCode and Jetbrains IDEs, a huge portion of them will end up becoming a Jetbrains user, and on someday, some of them can become paying customers

VSCode infrastructure is pretty broad and the community is pretty large. I only use it to make light code edits here and there but I would never put my whole project in it.

>>I've ever installed a single plugin in IntelliJ because it just does everything I need out of the box. Same here, the only plugins I installed were themes :)

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