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Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Now they are european. They started as fully Russian company. But they are a truly rare example of a company that actually left russian market. Unlike Apple or LG.

Did they have Russian developers and let them go? Or do you mean the ownership has changed?

My understanding is they relocated the developers who were in Russia

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

#43

As a paying subscriber I love this move for the .NET community. As a .NET dev for many years, I've noticed there have been periods of time where either Visual Studio or Rider was far better than the other. Currently, Rider is much better. Hopefully this encourages more people to try out C# & F#. Both fantastic languages. - Edit - Looks like Webstorm (JS/TS editor) is also free now.

I also expect this to put pressure on C# DevKit team, right now its purpose is to only be good enough to drive people into Windows/VS, eventually.

Rider is the only comparable DX to VS outside Windows.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they have Russian developers and let them go? Or do you mean the ownership has changed?

My understanding is they relocated the developers who were in Russia

Correct, though they also lost some who were not willing to relocate.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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What an amazing accomplishment JetBrains has done. It's a bootstrapped, European company, doing $400M+ annually in revenue selling to developers (who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay). https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/annualreport-2023/

> who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay And who more often than not get their software imposed on by the orgs they work in, so it's doubly complicated - the developers have to be convinced themselves enough to be willing to convince their IT department/fellow developers to pay for.

Most professional developers in Western countries should have the means to pay for their own license if really needed.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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There are a few privately owned companies that amaze me: JetBrains, Valve among the top. Somehow they have a much better value/user and make reasonable decisions: counter intuitive to investors/shareholders but insanely intuitive to their users.

I am sure the public market has made the general public reap the rewards of large companies (kudos!) but some of the privately owned companies are absolutely kicking ass to serve their customers instead.

Rider is a really great product - probably the next generation of coders will be split between VS Code and Rider with this change.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

#47

This is pretty huge all around, especially with Microsoft discontinuing Visual Studio for Mac. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022... I'd also like to note the great integration Rider has with Godot and Unity for game development.

Wasn’t VS for Mac a MonoDevelop build with amputated Linux support rather than a version of Visual Studio proper? Or am I out of date on this?

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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What an amazing accomplishment JetBrains has done. It's a bootstrapped, European company, doing $400M+ annually in revenue selling to developers (who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay). https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/annualreport-2023/

> selling to developers (who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay). All of whom, strangely, expect to be paid for their work.

I dislike this implication that developers are greedy when the real tension is commercial interests vs mutually beneficial communal interests. Of course everyone expects to get paid, but developers love community projects and protect them fiercely because there's no natural force that can. It's all up to the people themselves.

Sure, some minority of people are just greedy and rude. I think most people aren't. As far as being stingy goes, I believe I have paid more for software so far than most people will in their entire life time by probably multiples and I'm happy to continue to do so, and I will also be on every thread about a CLA rug-pull as well, because BS is BS, no two ways about it.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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What an amazing accomplishment JetBrains has done. It's a bootstrapped, European company, doing $400M+ annually in revenue selling to developers (who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay). https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/annualreport-2023/

Now they are european. They started as fully Russian company. But they are a truly rare example of a company that actually left russian market. Unlike Apple or LG.

I always thought the company was Czech? Though I think the founders were Russian nationals.

I guess it depends on what you consider a "Russian Company".

As a British national living in the USA, does that mean if I start a company it'll be a "British Company" forevermore?

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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What an amazing accomplishment JetBrains has done. It's a bootstrapped, European company, doing $400M+ annually in revenue selling to developers (who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay). https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/annualreport-2023/

> who are some of the most difficult buyers to convenience to pay And who more often than not get their software imposed on by the orgs they work in, so it's doubly complicated - the developers have to be convinced themselves enough to be willing to convince their IT department/fellow developers to pay for.

This seems to be what JetBrains has been betting on for a long time. Don't need to build a competent text editor if you can give management the right buzzwords.
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