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Linus Torvalds comments on the Russian Linux maintainers being delisted

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Re: Linus Torvalds comments on the Russian Linux maintainers being delisted

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it's likely not just deflection/paranoia in his case.

It certanly looks like. This is, unfortunately, not the Linus i knew from lkml. Anyway, it is a good alarm signal about open source (especially after npm and xz). In the end we are all amunition. /s

> It certanly looks like.

With what's been going on in the world and with Russia, it really doesn't. That's the thing.

Re: Linus Torvalds comments on the Russian Linux maintainers being delisted

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post #32

Is this being done as a sanction against Russia or because it is feared that the Russian government would get some rogue developers to submit code to the kernel that enables attacks? Individual Russian programmers are not responsible for the invasion of Ukraine, so I would be reluctant to punish them for Putin's crime and to deprive Linux of their contributions.

Specifically, the removed individuals work for Russian organizations that are sanctioned. So this isn't really about individual Russian programmers at all.

I was trying to find the reason of their removal in the email conversation, but I couldn't have done it. The only statement was provided was something like "the reasons are clear". But it's not clear whether they were removed because of their association with sanctioned companies or just because of their country.

Re: Linus Torvalds comments on the Russian Linux maintainers being delisted

#97
post #67

Is this being done as a sanction against Russia or because it is feared that the Russian government would get some rogue developers to submit code to the kernel that enables attacks? Individual Russian programmers are not responsible for the invasion of Ukraine, so I would be reluctant to punish them for Putin's crime and to deprive Linux of their contributions.

> Individual Russian programmers are not responsible for the invasion of Ukraine, so I would be reluctant to punish them for Putin's crime and to deprive Linux of their contributions. True, but individual Russian programmers are not free of Putin's influence, and could be compelled to do undesirable things. The day after the invasion of Ukraine, my employer locked out all contractors we employed who resided in Russia…

Ah! Finally the spies have been freed from Putin influence by being relocated to a safer country, no matter that if someone is truly as brainwashed as you say changing countries is pointless. Fucking hypocrisy

Re: Linus Torvalds comments on the Russian Linux maintainers being delisted

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If this was purely because of sanctions, this could have been handled much more gracefully. But it's clear from Linus' comments that he just doesn't respect these volunteers because they happen to be from a particular country. > I'm Finnish. ... Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history knowledge too. If we're suddenly taking history as a criterion, half of the world should ban British develope…

Russia is unique in that they are both presently and historically a threat to the entire western world.

Re: Linus Torvalds comments on the Russian Linux maintainers being delisted

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post #60
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least part of that might very well be illegal.

Then it sounds like public open source projects are now illegal in the US. We should act accordingly.

Alternatively we can continue like normal because not much of value will be lost. Git is inherently decentralized. If A requires work by C they can pull it directly or B can pull from C and A from B.

There is no inherent issue with C's contributions coming in by way of B especially if B vetted and examined said contributions personally.

Re: Linus Torvalds comments on the Russian Linux maintainers being delisted

#100
post #16

Ahh, old one "anyone who disagrees with me is a Russian state sponsored troll". If he had just written - compliance, we cannot work with sanctioned entities, that would be fine and understandable.

Why bring corporate lingo into an open source project though

Linux is an ultra-corporate project (look who pays Linus and Greg and look at the members, what they say Linus will do).
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