C.AI shouldn't be marketed to kids, and it should have stopped when suicide was mentioned. But its also baffling to think that he had unrestricted access to a firearm. I don't think a lawsuit to C.AI is entirely right here.
Can A.I. be blamed for a teen's suicide?
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Re: Can A.I. be blamed for a teen's suicide?
#72This is 100% a parenting issue. I'd also like to point out that his father's handgun was easily accessible.
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#73"Sewell, like many children his age, did not have the maturity or mental capacity to understand that the C.AI bot, in the form of Daenerys, was not real" How? Seriously, how? Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part -- but I grew up before AI and chatbots, and I'm certain I would understand it isn't real. I'm baffled by people engaging with these things for entertainment/companionship purposes.
The subconscious mind ... believes anything you feed it, on a subconscious level maybe he couldn't distinguish between normal reality plus he certainly already had mental health issues that could have made him more susceptible to that sort of thing. BPD for instance in some cases can cause hallucinations and it does cause you to generally live in a 'fantasy' world where you're often daydreaming. A lot of this is caused often though by outside trauma, BPD can be caught environmentally, isn't necessarily chemical, though that can play a part.
This is my understanding as someone with mild / high functioning BPD (recently diagnosed) ... Please feel free to correct me on that if I'm wrong...
Re: Can A.I. be blamed for a teen's suicide?
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We had a similar situation in our family and we tried teaching mindful screen habits. We still lost because we couldn’t do anything about the school screen (chromebook). If we took that away at home it just provided an excuse for not doing schoolwork. We contacted teachers about our child downloading and watching anime and playing games all day in school. They wouldn’t/couldn’t do anything. We requested that the scho…
You could try blocking his anime website on your home network. Then he can keep using the Chromebook for school work but can't access his favorite sites.
That's just an arms race. The kid will find a new favorite website to play games on, there seems no end to them. There's endless websites out there that are more appealing than doing homework. I have a very locked down network, there's always some new website that has games of some sort to play.
If schools are going to provide these things, they should have the sites the kids might need to access white-listed and block everything else. Telling parents to try and block things is not realistic.
Re: Can A.I. be blamed for a teen's suicide?
#75I’ll say it: it’s games killing/radicalizing teens again. He was simply ERP-ing and his characteristic doesn’t suggest any serious problems with his intelligence. I’m obviously theorizing here, but chances are high that he went through some real life issues which were undetected or ignored by parents, and that’s how their minds try to explain that. AI guilty of an otherwise fine teen shooting his head off. Sure. Sell…
> He was simply ERP-ing and his characteristic doesn't suggest any serious problems with his intelligence.
i expect ai to be capable of superhuman persuasion well before it is superhuman at general intelligence, which may lead to some very strange outcomes
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#77This is 100% a parenting issue. I'd also like to point out that his father's handgun was easily accessible.
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#79"Sewell, like many children his age, did not have the maturity or mental capacity to understand that the C.AI bot, in the form of Daenerys, was not real" How? Seriously, how? Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part -- but I grew up before AI and chatbots, and I'm certain I would understand it isn't real. I'm baffled by people engaging with these things for entertainment/companionship purposes.
The subconscious mind ... believes anything you feed it, on a subconscious level maybe he couldn't distinguish between normal reality plus he certainly already had mental health issues that could have made him more susceptible to that sort of thing. BPD for instance in some cases can cause hallucinations and it does cause you to generally live in a 'fantasy' world where you're often daydreaming. A lot of this is caus…
Yes, but most 14 year olds have the capacity to know the difference between a chatbot and a real person
Whether that capacity is realized is another thing