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I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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Re: I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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akhosravian wrote: post #59
GJim wrote: post #58

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> in the ICU for days and I paid a grand total of $2k My wife paid a grand total of £0 The very _idea_ we would need to pay money for such medical treatment is bizarre.

The idea that it costs nothing somehow is bizarre. If you divide the NHS budget for 2024 (192 billion) by the UK population (67 million) you’ll find it works out to just under 3000 pounds per person just for 2024. Assuming your wife’s visit was this year your family paid about 3x what the poster you are responding to did. I’m also working from the assumption most posters here are in high tax brackets; I understand te…

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Re: I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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Post by GJim »

scrozier wrote: post #76
GJim wrote: post #58

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> in the ICU for days and I paid a grand total of $2k My wife paid a grand total of £0 The very _idea_ we would need to pay money for such medical treatment is bizarre.

Well, she paid nothing at the time. But she and you and your countrypersons paid for it, nonetheless. It's interesting to me that you think about it as free.

Call me when you can't afford your chemotherapy.

Re: I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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Post by scrozier »

GJim wrote: post #82
scrozier wrote: post #76

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Well, she paid nothing at the time. But she and you and your countrypersons paid for it, nonetheless. It's interesting to me that you think about it as free.

Call me when you can't afford your chemotherapy.

Not sure what that has to do with the point of medical care not ever being free.

Re: I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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Post by southernplaces7 »

Throw83489i7 wrote: post #49
southernplaces7 wrote: post #40

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The idea of dogs being the main source of domestic violence in the U.S is hilarious. Is there some epidemic of drunken dogs coming home to beat their owners that I haven't heard of yet? But seriously, you seem to have a bizarrely pathological hatred of dogs, enough of it to just throw out completely random accusations against them with nothing at all to back your weird bullshit. Why? Who knows, but if you're going to…

> drunken dogs coming home to beat their owners that I haven't heard of yet? Yes, it is called "reactive" dogs. Remember the definition of DV, next time someone is blamed for provoking the dog. Even if dog is "provoked", that is not valid reason for violence! And I am not talking about dog owners, but their victims. Mostly children, spouses... They have no option to leave an abusive household. Many times they are gas…

There's no way you can imply this much malicious intent to an animal that basically.... doesn't possess the capacity for malicious intent.

Either you're some sort of troll or you've let this hatred totally cloud basic reasoning. They're dogs dude, very different from people and their capacity for malice.

And most dog owners, being the family members of all these abused people you claim, would themselves do what they could to train their dogs against freely harming others.

Re: I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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Post by hnbad »

Throw83489i7 wrote: post #11
adrianN wrote: post #9

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Since dogs are everywhere and very few people get sick from them, the risks seem to be quite low.

> very few people get sick from them, Do you have any source for this statement? If you get stomach infection (like ulcer), there is no investigation of source of bacteria. Every municipality just accepts dog poop as "part of nature". And nations that do not tolerate dogs are healthier. Toxoplasma can be actually traced to cats, and like 60% of population are infected! Huge part of population have stomach ulcers and…

I don't think you can demand sources if your own claims are not only unsourced but also some of them are demonstrably incorrect or misleading.

You talk about dog poop but then speak of "stomach ulcers and other poop hygiene releated diseases with "unknown sources"". The main cause of stomach ulcers (other than painkiller overuse) seems to be (certain strains of) heliobacter pylori:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

The transmission route of heliobacter pylori is both fecal-oral AND oral-oral with the latter apparently being far more common. Heliobacter pylori is transmitted between humans and has been with humans since before humans first migrated from Africa. So "stomach ulcers" are neither a "poop hygiene related disease" nor have mostly "unknown sources".

Also no, "every municipality" does not "accept dog poop as "part of nature"". Numerous (if not all) US states and many (if not all) EU countries have "pooper scooper" laws that come with considerable fines for letting your dog poop in public and not cleaning up after them. In Italy there have even been cases of DNA testing being used to investigate abandoned dog poop.

Not only are your claims unsourced and don't stand up to scrutiny but some of them are completely incomprehensible:

> And nations that do not tolerate dogs are healthier.

What does that sentence even mean? I assume by "nation" you mean "country" but what do you mean by "not tolerating dogs" and what do you base the definition of "healthier" on?

So no, nobody owes you any sources. You have to back up your claims first.

Re: I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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Post by meindnoch »

jjulius wrote: post #65
Throw83489i7 wrote: post #18

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Dogs are the biggest source of domestic violence in America...

At this point I think it's safe to ask - what happened between you and a dog/dogs at some point in your life to prompt you to take this stance?

Guy is probably a devout muslim.

Re: I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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Post by throwway120385 »

mercutio2 wrote: post #63
throwway120385 wrote: post #51

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I can speak to even routine things like a childbirth still costing thousands of dollars with "good" insurance with a "low" out of pocket maximum and 100% coverage after the deductible. It still cost 3 or 4 thousand dollars. So it's not necessarily those six figure costs that are tough to deal with but even routine hospital care that gets very expensive in the US. I'm fortunate that we can afford that cost. But for a…

My daughter was premature and spent weeks in the NICU. My family paid exactly $0 for this experience, with good US insurance. People paying thousands of dollars with insurance have chosen to purchase cheaper insurance premiums, and then bear higher costs when there’s an expensive event. This is a fine choice to make. It does not mean the US healthcare system is especially expensive for middle class people. Like many…

I didn't choose to purchase cheaper insurance. It's provided by my employer, by law. Paying thousands per month for "better" insurance isn't an option.

Re: I got dysentery so you don’t have to

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Post by jinji »

renewiltord wrote: post #54
bilekas wrote: post #26

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> Articles like this are a nice reminder of just how wonderful life is in America, and just how far civilization has to fall if shit REALLY hits the fan someday. While I agree its cool to see progress. If I get sick in the US and need medical attention, just fly me back to Europe. Id rather not go bankrupt.

I’d go to somewhere like India that has medical tourism. Any procedure that you can wait long enough to fly to Europe will have a long waitlist there. Besides I was completely blown up in the US on my motorcycle with fractures all over and in the ICU for days and I paid a grand total of $2k. I think it was pretty cool honestly. There was some therapy afterwards that cost a little more but overall I’m back to normal e…

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