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Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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If you live in the west and criticise your government, nothing happens. If you live in China and criticise your government, even in private, you can go missing or end up in a camp

Try telling that to all those people punished for protesting against Gaza genocide. Not to mention Julian Assange.

Julian Assange was wanted for publishing confidential documents, not speaking out against the government.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #39

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> If you live outside of China and don't know Mandarin Not just that, China has super apps that integrate everything from payments, food delivery, taxi, social media... To single application. Integrating this app directly into OS as a launcher (or shell) kind of makes sense.

Are you sure those everything aren't just bunch of third party janky WebViews, only relevant because of private chat app account moat? ("third party" and "private" parts are relevant, IMO, otherwise Twitter superapp-ification had happened years ago)

Maybe, but that is just implementation detail.

My point is that 3td party apps do not make much sense in China. They are useless without support from super app

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #49

I wonder the cost to Microsoft if there is a rigorous political effort by the CCP to move all Chinese desktop consumption away from Windows and Office Suite to open source (local) alternatives.

That's a cost to microsoft, sure, but probably a much bigger cost to china.

I like Linux, but porting a country's software on linux is no trivial task.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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If you live in the west and criticise your government, nothing happens. If you live in China and criticise your government, even in private, you can go missing or end up in a camp

Try telling that to all those people punished for protesting against Gaza genocide. Not to mention Julian Assange.

Still nothing compared to china. But nice try.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #37

I would be more interested in a OpenHarmony Desktop version. If it picks up on mainland and Asia in general it would be a proper 3rd desktop OS.

3rd desktop os? There are many more than 2 desktop oss already, am I misunderstanding you?

There are only two kernel architectures in use though: Unix-derived and Windows. This could make for a very different new entry

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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I think it is good that we have a non-Google, non-Apple OS for mobile phones out there though I am guessing that the surveillance state will be in full operation in Harmony OS as well.

The reason Huawei has a distinct non-Google Android flavour poisons the whole endeavour. Huawei is registered on the US Entity List. You can have the surveillance gulag of Google, or the surveillance gulag of the CCP. Pick your poison.

https://grapheneos.org/ Which has it's own set of issues, but there are choices.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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The article explicitly cites it in the second last paragraph. It was a bit more than political pressure, though: Huawei was added to the entity list and it would be a crime for US companies or citizens to do business with them.

That’s clearly not the case though? A lot of Huawei gear is still installed and operating, as of today, in US telecom networks. Even the pentagon is contracting with many companies using Huawei gear.

They’re not supposed to be running it!

There were specific orders to remove Huawei from the telecom network (but yeah they were not followed) in 2019.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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I think it is good that we have a non-Google, non-Apple OS for mobile phones out there though I am guessing that the surveillance state will be in full operation in Harmony OS as well.

The reason Huawei has a distinct non-Google Android flavour poisons the whole endeavour. Huawei is registered on the US Entity List. You can have the surveillance gulag of Google, or the surveillance gulag of the CCP. Pick your poison.

I am way too much of a small fry for the CCP to give a single fuck about me.

Google, on the other hand, can have a massive influence on my day to day life.

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That’s clearly not the case though? A lot of Huawei gear is still installed and operating, as of today, in US telecom networks. Even the pentagon is contracting with many companies using Huawei gear.

They’re not supposed to be running it! There were specific orders to remove Huawei from the telecom network (but yeah they were not followed) in 2019.

It's a pretty big operation to purge all of that legacy gear, so the government made a multi-billion dollar fund to support the removal over time, and I believe gave them until 2025 to finish the purge. And even that isn't exhaustive: They can still operate it after the deadline, they'll just be restricted from various government subsidies and programs.

So the government didn't flip a switch and tell them to make it disappear. They expected it to be a staggered, eventual process.

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